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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Anyone else not see an intercooler? This may be why they limited themselves to race gas and low boost. Seems silly to me to test with race gas, and low boost on a setup made to run 2 to 2.5 times that boost pressure unless there is some other limiting factor...

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Boost does not directly = hp; it all depends on the setup (as this proves). HP and torque is what stresses the engine, which is not a direct correlation to boost level between different setups. This was just an initial shake-down run from what I can tell and they were using race gas to provide a margin of safety in the initial tune; why risk blowing up the engine due to detonation? Detonation can kill an NA engine just as fast as a boosted one.

Also, as this is an engine dyno, the IC is most likely an air-to-water and they probably have some huge water resevoir (probably a 100 gallons or something) with temperature control to keep the water at a constant temperature.

If you click the link in the article to Part I, Eric explains some of the aspects of the engine dyno, including perfectly controlled environmental conditions.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
Boost does not directly = hp; it all depends on the setup (as this proves). HP and torque is what stresses the engine, which is not a direct correlation to boost level between different setups. This was just an initial shake-down run from what I can tell and they were using race gas to provide a margin of safety in the initial tune; why risk blowing up the engine due to detonation? Detonation can kill an NA engine just as fast as a boosted one.

Also, as this is an engine dyno, the IC is most likely an air-to-water and they probably have some huge water resevoir (probably a 100 gallons or something) with temperature control to keep the water at a constant temperature.

If you click the link in the article to Part I, Eric explains some of the aspects of the engine dyno, including perfectly controlled environmental conditions.
I already did. He mentions "we don't have a cobbled together system with and intercooler wobbling all over the place" or something to that effect. I wondered if that means "no intercooler" since I did not see one in the video or some other setup.

Boost does not = power... but using a huge turbo and running low boost = low torque. They would be better off with the stock turbo at those boost pressures. If this was a "shake down" run I can understand running low boost.... sort of silly to put your shake down run on the internet without the followup runs.

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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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Good numbers but seem normal...
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fourdoor
If this was a "shake down" run I can understand running low boost.... sort of silly to put your shake down run on the internet without the followup runs.

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Called a teaser? Like a movie preview? And there was some good info in there; 400 crank hp at 14.5 psi is nothing to sneeze at
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fourdoor
At less than stock boost.

Your point was????

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More power= more strain on the motor.

Regardless of the boost a stock motor at 400 flywheel hp is putting more strain on it than stock.

It's not over the top but I bet that motor has a lot more in it that's just not in the video!

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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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At less than stock boost.

Your point was????

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if boost was all it took to make hp, why even get a new turbo? the gt35 probably moves more air @ 14 psi than the stocker does @ 21+
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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was the cosworth intake on that motor?
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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was the cosworth intake on that motor?
No, looks to be the stock one. I think they want to push the stock parts to the limits of flow to establish a good baseline, hence the big turbo. Then install their different variations of heads and intake manifolds for comparison. My guess at least.
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