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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Is it safe to go 8k rpm with stock internals?

Like the title says, but i have the kelford st2 cams installed, but all else is stock.

And does anyone knows how high can i go with these cams?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 05:54 AM
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No.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hameedosh
Like the title says, but i have the kelford st2 cams installed, but all else is stock.

And does anyone knows how high can i go with these cams?
The problem isn't the cams, it is your valves and springs. At 8000 you could snap a spring and float a valve, especially with aftermarket cams having a higher lift and duration than stock cams. They are just more aggressive on the valvetrain than the stock cams, and that added with a higher rev could cause serious problems. Build the head if you plan to rev that high.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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^+1 what he said, with higher cam you might snap even worse. Did you change your rev limiter or ?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:20 AM
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dont most people switch switch valve springs/retainers when they do cams? I have always done Ti valve springs/retainers when I worked on Hondas but we were also talking about 9k + revlimiter
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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I'd be the most worried about your rodbolts revving that high on stock internals. Torque tends to snap rods on the stock internals, revs tend to loosen the rod bolts.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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No for that i would build the head so as the engine internals. Like rods pistons etc. Also i would stay with the 2.ol engine set up. And you can rev it even higher.

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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thanx for the heads up guys
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Gonna have to say a big negative ghostrider. No real reason to raise the limiter anyways unless you're running a bigger turbo. (In my opinion. Could be wrong.)
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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Gonna have to say a big negative ghostrider. No real reason to raise the limiter anyways unless you're running a bigger turbo. (In my opinion. Could be wrong.)
wut? Turbo really does not effect how high and engine can rev, its a bolt on piece. The main components of a high revving engine is the internals and being well balanced. Also if he has cams without a tune shame on him !
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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wut? Turbo really does not effect how high and engine can rev, its a bolt on piece. The main components of a high revving engine is the internals and being well balanced. Also if he has cams without a tune shame on him !
He probably mentioned that because the stock turbo is out of steam at high rpm so there is no point to rev that high.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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He probably mentioned that because the stock turbo is out of steam at high rpm so there is no point to rev that high.
Gotcha makes sense now
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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I have tuned an EVO X with upgraded springs and cams and she shifts at 8000 RPM. I wouldn't want to go much higher than that with the stock connecting rods.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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I am not trying to be a jerk, but saying that you have done one thing doesn't mean its a good idea. The same logic could be applied to people that have jumped out of airplanes and lived without a parachute...just because it has been done doesn't make it a good idea.

8k on a stock turbo with cams/spings, maybe, but on a more powerful setup that isn't a great idea if you ask me.

Like I said, the rod bolts have let go on several people due to 8k rpm revs...so i would at a minimum do rod bolts if you plan to rev a little higher...but in my true opinion rod bolts are dumb and if you are going to that trouble you mind as well do drop ins.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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Definately recommend against reving that high on stock internals. I was running over 600whp on a daily driven stock block and never wound her higher than 7300.....even now I count myself lucky that I never did any damage to the engine.
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