Notices
Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine builds to the best clutch and flywheel.

Engine Build Recommendations After Damaged Valves

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 10, 2024 | 02:22 PM
  #1  
Eric13's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: Southern Indiana
Engine Build Recommendations After Damaged Valves

My main issue is trying to figure out what to do with the motor. What parts do I choose and why? Should I also switch out final drive to Shep's 4.30 while I'm replacing diff pins? I'm not going to huge power and prefer not to be laggy. The MHI 18K has been great so far. I'll be doing all the work myself outside of having the machine shop deck the motor. I'm fairly happy with the current power (~450whp/370tq) the car had prior to loss of compression, stockish spool as well. I'm debating about bumping up to the 500-600whp range. While this is considered my DD, I WFH and I mainly cruise around town or get on the highway or an occasional AutoX. I run e85 99% of the time and if I need to drive over an hour I'll switch to 93 if I feel like it.

A few months ago my car randomly had a bad misfire after getting on the highway. Pulled over immediately and had a friend tow it back home. After trying to diagnose it and hoping for something simple I decided to just pull the motor. I had no compression in cylinders 3 and 4. I wanted to clean up everything, do the timing chain and overall refresh the motor/engine bay. From what I can see I got incredibly lucky that two exhaust valves, one for cylinder 3 and one for 4 chipped away. I suspect most of that chipping had been done prior to me owning the car though. The original turbo's exhaust turbine was badly damaged. I never drove the car when I first bought it and in the process of fixing it I went ahead and upgraded to a MHI 18K and it is still in perfect condition. And I don't see any loose metal.

================================================== ===================

Options I'm considering:
Build head / stock block / keep MHI 18K and stay around the same power just added reliability
Build head / build block / keep MHI 18K and stay around the same power just added reliability
Build head / stock block / GTX gen 2 3576 or similar spool to MHI 18K
Build head / build block / GTX gen 2 3576 or similar spool to MHI 18K

================================================== ===================

Potential Head Build?
GSC S2 Cams
GSC Springs/Retainers
GSC Exhaust Valves
GSC Intake Valves
GSC Valve Stem Seals
GSC Exhaust Valve Guide
GSC Intake Valve Guide
ARP Headstuds

================================================== ===================


Current Build:
ETS Intake
ETS Intercooler
Exedy Twin Clutch
MAP Manifold
MHI 18k Turbo
ID1300x
GrimSpeed BC
Walbro 450 FP
NRG Ops In-Line Fuel Filter
Flex Fuel Kit
Tial BOV
Tomei Titanium v3 Single Exit Exhaust
Shep Transfer Case
AMS WideMouth DP
MAP Catch Can / Coolant Res

================================================== ===================

Current Power:







Cylinder 3 - Exhaust Valve damage

Cylinder 3 Piston

Cylinder 3

Cylinder 4 - Exhaust Valve damage

Cylinder 4 Piston

Cylinder 4
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2024 | 03:34 PM
  #2  
schuhie's Avatar
Evolved Member
10 Year Member
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 849
Likes: 296
From: WI
First things first, I have no experience on the X but I'll still toss in my opinion.

If the stock bottom end is good; no bore scratches and stuff, I'd clean it up and use that. Its impossible to compete with stock for reliability. Then I'd upgrade the head with some valves, springs and small cams to keep the turbo spooling fast while adding a bit out top and I'd run it.
I had a something like this happen on my 9 but my timing tensioner failed and it broke off heads of the valves and scratched the bores badly. I built the engine and stuff and its great, don't get me wrong but the extra 100whp is kind of whatever. The 500 it made on the stock motor was plenty and the 600 it makes now is more than plenty lol.

As for the head build you listed, thats exactly what I went with on my 9.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 06:52 PM
  #3  
Abyram's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 17
Likes: 1
From: Ohio
If the bottom end is in good shape you could clean it up and reuse it. If you have the budget I’d go with rods and pistons and fresh hone & deck. As for the top end I love the GSC S2’s in my X but prefer Ferrea valve train components.

the burnt valves are likely from the valve lash tightening up over time and not allowing the exhaust valve to cool properly when seated.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2025 | 10:59 PM
  #4  
Ads9's Avatar
Newbie
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 2
From: Gatwick, UK
I’m in almost the exact same situation as you although my current engine is still running and already has forged pistons and H rods.

What did you decide to do?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Howulikemyevo
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
40
Sep 29, 2021 04:39 PM
ISPEVO8
Evo General
19
Feb 27, 2017 07:01 PM
Paulevo9
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
25
Oct 19, 2016 07:43 PM
SmurfZilla
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
3
Jan 21, 2011 08:57 PM
Paul Nelson
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
47
Feb 2, 2008 09:08 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:45 PM.