Well... i have to agree i am reading good things about the X but the Evo is a performance car first and getting down to raw numbers i dont see the X having an advantage over the IX, especially considering the aftermarket support the IX has. Right now everyone's guessing about the performance and flexibility of the engine in terms of mods and whatnot. So leaving that aside we are looking at the exterior/interior of the two cars. I dont care that much for the interior since once again, this car is about performance first.

The exterior is something to take a look at though because its one of the things that make the IIX and IX instantly reconginzable on the road. I am looking at the difference between the IX Evo and the Lancer and that difference is huge. Just think of what it would take to turn a regular Lancer into an Evo just exterior-wise. You'd probably have to replace everything except the roof. Not so in the X. Mitsu wants the Evo X to drive the basic Lancer sales and thus the difference between the Evo and the Lancer is marginal. You'd probably get away with replacing the fenders and front facia on the regular Lancer to get the Evo X look. Dont have to replace the headlights front and rear or anything else. Its that close proximity of the Evo X to the regular Lancer which just turns me off.

Stand-alone the X is a good looking car but i think it should be more unique and should not share that much with a regular Lancer. Right now, you would never mistake a Lancer for an Evo on the road from any agnle but with the X you just might. Plus the X is a larger heavier car now... does not look like an evolution of the previous models but a completely different kind of car which is not something i like.

Anyway, i am not going to trade in my IX MR at least for the first year no matter what i think about the X but as of now, i dont think i am going for the X all together unless i see a good reason to. Time till tell. I guess it all boils down to the test drive. If i feel a huge improvement over my IX, enough of an improvement to offset what i think about it's closeness to the regular Lancer... maybe i will consider it.

What are your thoughts about the exterior design of the regular Lancer vs. the Evo X?

 

Do you need a hug? Who cares about why you're not sure, this isn't Dr. Phil. Unless you have some new legit info about the X then why create pointless threads like this and further more pollute this section. If you want to share your thoughts then go to OT.

 

Err... thats nice. Isnt this section for discussion of future models? Are you on crack or something? Do you apply the same logic to all the "will you trade in..." and "would you buy in DSG or manual..." and "I bought a IX because to me it is the last..." threads? Lighten up before you give yourself a heart attack.

 

lol. good post.


some people just have too much free time to think about pointless sh_t.....

 

well... 95% of everything posted is useless s@#t so lets clean up the board and keep a tight watch on it. Lets respond to all posts we dont like with "stfu" or "that pic/car/setup/wheel/mod is crap".

if you dont like it dont read it and dont respond to it... i just dont get the hostility. If a mod feels like this belongs in a different section, please by all means - move it and let me know.

All i did was outline my view and invited others to talk about the subject which just so happens to be in line with "Future Evo Models". Should i have posted in the "Show and Shine" section? Or maybe i should have asked for your approval before i posted? Whats your problem exactly?

 

LOL, he definately needs a hug, he bought Evo IX MR and he had to justify it on this board. Evo IX is a great car, it's just that stock for stock Evo X will be a better car, as far as aftermarket support is concerned, it doesn't take a genious to figure out that at the beginning it will be very limited as 4B11 is a new engine design. 4G63 is over 20 years old, it had a LOT of time to gain aftermarket support, at the beginning it also was a new unproven design and it took some time before mods came in to play. Lancer Evo is a global platform, I know some people like to compare it to the demise of Eclipse but Evo actually is a worldwide rally icon, where Eclipse was built solely for USA.

And the new Lancer is heavier (safer and has more room inside) but also wider and shorter which should improve it's handling skills. They'll probably slap a 320-330HP engine in it and all the stock Evo VIII and IX will be able to look at the Evo X ***. They don't call it Evolution for nothing, actually Evo X will be more of an rEvolution.

 

Just for the record, the only body panels that are not different on the X are the front doors. Literally, every other body panel is different; take a close look.

 

For the record. Yes i bought the 9MR (and i've had it for about a year now). No i dont need to justify it. Yes i can buy the X the moment it hits the showroom floor (so whats with the "justify the IX"?).

Is there something i am missing? I thought this is an Evo community board. What the hell is up with all the "he needs to justify" crap? What the hell do i need to justify to you? Do you own the Evo X? Am i saying "my car if better and your car sucks"? I am simply comparing an existing Evo to a future Evo. Nothing to do with what i am driving right now.

But anyway, thanks for a semi-constructive reply. I see your point in terms of the logic behind the X being an improvement, just thought i'd leave the mechanicals aside and talk about the exterior design.

 

I would not buy a X because of the lack of aftermarket support and there are too many variables to know what will be reliable and what won't. If the car comes out too be a beast with reliability etc etc like the previous gen. EVO's great, but I'm not going to be a guinea pig.

 

Now that is the most sensible reason why not to buy an X that I've seen yet on these boards.

 

Then just as Draco-Rex mentioned, look closely at the Evo X and regular new Lancer, there isn't that much in common on the outside as you might think. Maybe Evo X resembles regular Lancer more than Evo IX resembles last gen regular Lancers, but in all honesty, the new Lancer actually is a genuinely attractive sedan where Evo VIII and IX along with last gen Lancers leave a lot to be desired when it comes to aesthetics. So all in all, I don't think it's a bad thing that Evo X will resemble a regular Lancer because the regular Lancer actually looks like a more upscale sedan rather than some rice looking econobox.

 

there is no concrete evidence to say anything about the X regarding the aftermarket, how it drives, how fast it is, how it handles.....etc....

do you know why? because it's not out yet!

how about we all just have a coke and a smile and WAIT until it comes out and then draw conclutions?

 

Aftermarket support will catch up sooner or later, the biggest concern is the reliability as this is a new engine design with a high boost so I would also wait a couple of months and certainly wouldn't buy the first batch of Evo X's.

 

I've been thinking exactly the same thing. The base model is too close. Add wheels and a drop and it only gets worse.

This is one of the reasons I bought an e46 M3 a few years ago (gone now). It is next to impossible to duplicate out of the regular 3 series. I'm on the fence about simply buying an MR myself. I don't see them much now so there is little concern they are going to pop out of the woodwork at this point.

And for the record I think the MR is worth it

 

Good point there. As i said, i dont find the X to be ugly. I think that there are a lot of great design features on the car and to be honest, overall the whole design just comes together better vs the IIX or IX. I am just thinking that an IXX or IX owner does feel special looking at his/her Evo as it is a very unique (maybe a bit over the top even) design. You honestly cant say that the Evo is a regular Lancer on steroids. Not so with the X. Its a regular Lancer with changes here and there. Think of it this way... the difference between the new Lancer and the Evo X is the same as between the Audi A4 and the RS4.

That small difference, no matter how you turn it, is due to the 2 basic reasons: 1) The need to sell more regular Lancers. 2) The need to keep the Evo production costs down.

The currently huge difference between the regular(now previous gen) Lancer and the Evo is simply not as profitable as a smaller difference would be. Hence the new Evo X and the new Lancer. No matter how you look at it, for us its a move down and not up. Forget the underpinnings, any "all new model/platform" will always be better vs the one it replaces. No doubt about it. I just think that visually, they could have given the Evo X a more dreastic departure from the regular Lancer.