I don't see why it's laughable, SMGs still shift much faster than a human can, as does the F1 tranny in the 360, yet they're slower around a track. Have you ever even driven a car on a track? I'm sorry, but the throttle modulation possible with an MT car is enough to make up for the lost time in shifting in most cases. The gearing may play a roll, but if the SST does end up being faster around a track I bet it's not by much and that the speed difference claimed in this link will not be real.

Superior in times might happen with the Evo SST, superior in driving pleasure, not even close. At least not for me... I've driven DSG cars back to back with their MT counterpart. I was bored out of my mind driving the DSG cars and I felt disconected. It was as if I was playing a bad video game.

 

Nice read..;.

 

Basically the advantages of the transmission are more than just fast shifts, from shifting faster everything you do benefits.

You go faster down the straights, you accelerate more consistently, you rev match perfectly which lets you just worry about steering/braking/throttle inputs which makes driving a car at the limit A LOT EASIER, and evidently faster.


Cliffs notes: the transmission is a huge advantage.

Scorke

 

yes, 5MT is preferred here and I hope they release the EVO X RS in U.S soon

 

I challenge any SST X, once it gets here, to a race at Pocono long course. You can try to pass me at 110mph because apparently I'll be a sitting duck at that speed on the straight with my 5 spd... or maybe not!

 

Again, clearly you've haven't been on a track enough to realize how much throttle modulation with an MT can help you control a car on a roadcourse...

 

All I care, is to see how well the Evo X will respond to modds. SST or Manual that is still to be seen. I will choose SST if the tuners will be able to make the car leave out of the whole at about 6,000 rpms and also if the clutches will be able to take the power to the wheels.

 

And why can't you modulate the throttle with the SST? If it is in gear, there will be no difference. I think the SST will be faster around a track, but I still prefer a manual for driving enjoyment. The SST will be damn nice sitting in rush hour though.

 

It is an it's already proven there is a video of an manual audi TT and DSG audi TT and the DSG wins.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IjR5WM3offw 0.4 of a second better

Also SST is supposed to put the DSG to shame so the rosults can only get better.

 

you know why i like those tests? Because how many times you see the driver lapping a same time, exactly everytime? And they talking about 4th tent of the seconds. How about the the power differences between unbreaked in cars?
I think in the audi they want to sell that tranny... I don't like audis dsg period.

 

Both cars are using the same engine obviously the DSG has less powerlose through the drivetrain which would mean that's another + for the DSG/SST

4 tenths of a second is almost 1/2 a second I see people *****ing about .2 seconds from 0-60 but now when you bring in a video they go "oh wait, no, 0.4 tenths of a a second is nothing" Make up your mind guys.

 

i like the semi auto tranny a lot. But i think what the audi have is bs. i drove it.
so that is why i little worried about the evo style tranny. BUT i really hoping it will be as they say it!
If it does do what it promised, it will be away more fun to drive those cars then the regular ones.
i drove paddle shifter race car before,its amazing!

 

I have spent days on roadcourses in terms of total track time...

Clearly, you don't realize that you can modulate the throttle with a DSG car, just the same way you can in a manual.

What does throttle modulation have to do with what type of gearbox your using, unless its a full-blown automatic? If your in gear, and wont move out of it unless the driver does something its the same concept of having a manual.

You my friend, don't know what your talking about.

Scorke

 

DSG is probably the BEST semi auto out there, it has the next gear selected on the second clutch while your in whatever gear you are, so if you are changing into the gear that it assumes you want, you have a quicker shift than a professional racing driver could do, with less momentum loss.

Scorke

 

Looks like I def. won't be getting the 5 speed ever. The gears are too short for me and they resemble the sti's gearing, which I hate. I even think the 6 speed gearing could be longer, it is almost identical to that of the sti. I know it keeps the car in the powerband but I don't want to have to shift every 2 seconds.