Evo IX vs X
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I am really surprised to hear everyone say that the evo x looks like crap compared to the 9. To me, it's quite the opposite. I think that the X looks SIGNIFIGANTLY better than any evo of the past. It's nose is a little controversial, but the car from the side and back are gorgeous. It's more muscular, and to me looks a lot more like a high end sports sedan than a ricer's wet dream, which the evo 9 does. I drive an STi and the style is the main thing that pains me about the car, and the evo 9 isn't much better. And yeah, performance is what the car's supposed to be all about, but a little style and maturity never hurts. I think that people who are saying that the new car's ugly are just being fanboys for their current evo 9's. Maybe you're not the target market for the new car. I mean, for me, performance is what attracted me to the sti when I bought it almost 4 years ago, not the style. I've always been a little embarresed by the styling myself, and as I've gotten older I just can't live with the boy racer look anymore. It's the same with the evo 8/9. If style is what attracted you to the evo 9, then you LIKE the boy racer look, and of course wouldn't like the EVO X. Which is fine, but I need something with the performance AND the looks. Sorry fanboys, but the EVO X is the better looking AND performing car. I personally am glad that mitsu chose this path, because the evo's have always been incredible performers, but I couldn't stay in my early 20's forever. You'll get there too one day.
As far as performance goes, so far all the reviews I have read say that Evo IX is a bit faster on 0-60 but on actual track Evo X is a better car. Also the SST at the time of reviews wasn't fully optimized by Mitsubishi so I am assuming that even the 0-60 times will be a bit better on Evo X with SST than last gen Evo IX with manual tranny. Since Mitsubishi wants to move Evo X a bit upmarket (increase prices) I think Evo X has to be faster in every imaginable way than last gen Evo, otherwise it will be a bit of a failure considering the price increase.
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Well, I do have the right to say that the X is the better performing car because road and track, car and driver, motor trend, and edmunds have all gotten their hands on one to test drive and the verdict is the same all across the boards, the EVO X is the superior car. So here come the facts...DEEP BREATH. A hair slower in a straight line because of the added weight, with vastly improved handling due to a much stiffer chassis, a much improved AWD system, AYC, S-AWC, etc, a much more durable 5 speed transmission with multi-cone synchros on ALL gears, not just the first 3 like most cars (including the evo 9), the list goes on and on. The car has improved suspension geometry, and the motor, despite having an aluminum block instead of iron, should prove to be superior. Direct injection, electronic throttle, MIVEC on the intake AND exhaust cams (as opposed to only on the intake for the evo 9), a timing chain instead of a belt (much more durable and maintainance free for longer intervals), hydraulic engine mounts for less shock transmitted to the drivetrain during launches and fast gear changes, as well as less vibration and noise inside the cabin, do I really need to continue? Look, the EVO 9 is badass, I have driven my friends EVO 9 MR many times, and I drive an STi, and have for almost 4 years, so I am very familiar with these cars, and the new EVO is shaping up to be the better car. I mean answer me this, has Mitsubishi ever disappointed with the next iteration of the EVO ever? NO! It will be no different this time, I assure you. And, if it convinces you any more than my extensively fact filled post already should have, the new evo X is 2 seconds faster around mitsubishi's test track than the evo 9. Road and Track confirmed this; the first time driving the car the guy shaved more than a second off of his previous run in an evo 9. So, as badass as the evo 9 is, the X is better, and who cares if it's not quite as "edgy" as the old model, it's faster around a track and can do that with a higher level of luxury and build quality, while thumping 650 watts of Rockford Fosgate goodness, and looks better than ever before doing it. Hey, if you like the 9, stick with it...it's a great car. I myself like the more mature looks and higher level of refinement and technology of the X. Different strokes for different folks, right?
+1000000000000. For sure man. I couldnt have said it any better my self. And to all this hating on the X, the f'ing car isnt even out yet. So how can we hate, only be excited about the new changes in the car. If after the car has arived, and the car is a let down, let the flamming begin. But why flame a car that no one has ever driven. But I will tell you, I stongly beleive that the X will be hands down the best evo made. Everyone is just freaking out because its not a 4g6s, do you really think mitsu would have made a motor, that was a p.o.s for the evo. Has the evo ever let you down, why would they destroy something so good. If mitsu was smart enough to design the 4g63, I would think that they were smart enough to put a better motor in the X, not a worse one. Cmon guys lets be realistic.
I saw a new black lancer the other day at Walmart and It looked smaller than it does in pictures. It also looked better in person than in photos. I really dont understand why Mitsubishi didnt put out a car that at least meets the performance (accelleration) of prior Evo's. But ok, the new car is looking better in my mind and yes the IX looks very outdated compared to the new models. But... the IX's/VIII's are likely to remain more powerful. We'll see I guess. The last article that I read on the X told me to stop reading after 1 paragraph so I did.
Just reading other peoples post on how the VIII and IX aren't the best looking cars compared to other cars i disagree totally. I of course was drawn to the evo for its performance platform but i also loved the way it looked. I own a VIII and it could use a IX make-over for sure but it IMO is still a sharp looking car. As for the ten i have tried to read everything that comes out on it and it looks like its still taking the lead over the STI and probably late model Evo's if the block holds up. If hondas make 800+ hp on a aluminum block why cant Mitsu then. Plus it made more hp and tq than the new STI which is still .5l bigger.
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From: VT
As for looks I really have only two issues with the X. First, it looks a bit too much like the base Lancer. Second, and more obvious complaint, that bucktooth front end.
Lastly, why would those that favor the VIII and IX have to be young racer/ricer types? Big wing = young, small wing = older? Is that it?
I can jump in here:
Ive already made my points known about the 4b11, SST and the overall configuration of the drivetrain and the like. I see weak links....
The 5 speed version? Well, thats more of a level playing field.
Just for the record, I hope I am wrong. More wrong than the word describes.
As far as looks, the Evo X looks....DUH. like an evolution of the Evolution.
Its designed to be a newer, fresher version of a car that was deemed pretty....well, a face only a mother (fathers in most cases) could love.
I'll put it this way....take an X-Ray machine. 10 years ago, it looked like an XRay machine. The brand new, top shelf model that is made by the same company, well, is a much more fluid, techy, well built and advanced machine-and it shows.
BUT you still know they are both XRay machines....does that make them attractive? No!
Are they functional, life saving devises? YES. Anyone who can appreciate what I am talking about, need not worry about whether the Evo IX or X are attractive cars.
Ive already made my points known about the 4b11, SST and the overall configuration of the drivetrain and the like. I see weak links....
The 5 speed version? Well, thats more of a level playing field.
Just for the record, I hope I am wrong. More wrong than the word describes.
As far as looks, the Evo X looks....DUH. like an evolution of the Evolution.
Its designed to be a newer, fresher version of a car that was deemed pretty....well, a face only a mother (fathers in most cases) could love.
I'll put it this way....take an X-Ray machine. 10 years ago, it looked like an XRay machine. The brand new, top shelf model that is made by the same company, well, is a much more fluid, techy, well built and advanced machine-and it shows.
BUT you still know they are both XRay machines....does that make them attractive? No!
Are they functional, life saving devises? YES. Anyone who can appreciate what I am talking about, need not worry about whether the Evo IX or X are attractive cars.
Heres how i see it:
Looks: This is a matter of personal opinion and nobody is wrong here. However, it would be wise to reserve final judgment until you see it in person. Me personally, I like both the IX and X.
Performance: The X is a better performer period stock to stock. Like most cars, it performs better than its predecessors, but as noted, some of the feel and connection has been lost. Just the same as the progression from the 6 to the 7. None one can say yet how it will react to mods accept that the 5spd is almost definitely the way to for this route.
Additionally, the X is far better equipped and has a better chassis, however at slightly added cost.
However, there is too much yet to be known in terms of reliability and how it will react to mods to really judge this car fairly. As for me, I would be happy with either
Looks: This is a matter of personal opinion and nobody is wrong here. However, it would be wise to reserve final judgment until you see it in person. Me personally, I like both the IX and X.
Performance: The X is a better performer period stock to stock. Like most cars, it performs better than its predecessors, but as noted, some of the feel and connection has been lost. Just the same as the progression from the 6 to the 7. None one can say yet how it will react to mods accept that the 5spd is almost definitely the way to for this route.
Additionally, the X is far better equipped and has a better chassis, however at slightly added cost.
However, there is too much yet to be known in terms of reliability and how it will react to mods to really judge this car fairly. As for me, I would be happy with either
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Thats my biggest complaint too. The Evo always had a distinctly different look than the lancer. You could tell right away from the front end especially its a lancer not an evo. I think they should have made a little more aggressive looking to seperate it from the lancer.
So many of these threads with the same responses...
I have a IX so yes Im going to like the IX better for now, I dont care about how the evo X performs stock for stock because seriously who keeps these cars stock anyway? I wont make up my mind until I see companies like AMS start testing these cars out.
Cant wait until they get their's in!
I have a IX so yes Im going to like the IX better for now, I dont care about how the evo X performs stock for stock because seriously who keeps these cars stock anyway? I wont make up my mind until I see companies like AMS start testing these cars out.
Cant wait until they get their's in!
Thats my biggest complaint too. The Evo always had a distinctly different look than the lancer. You could tell right away from the front end especially its a lancer not an evo. I think they should have made a little more aggressive looking to seperate it from the lancer.
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Have you seen the X in person? Pictures just don't do the car enough justice. In the metal it's quite striking. BTW if you were to reread many of the articles written on the X, not one mentions that it's visually too similar to the standard Lancer. Look at them side by side in the flesh then come back and tell us what you think...