Evo X Vs. 335xi 4d
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That's a sweet dream, but the 30-32k Evo won't have a paddle shifter, and even if it did, would probably cost about as much to own as the 45k BMW. Lease rates on the IX were so atrocious that the 335 might actually lease better despite the $ difference!
P.S. The important name, Mitsubishi, can't touch the other names you mentioned with a 10ft pole.
P.S. The important name, Mitsubishi, can't touch the other names you mentioned with a 10ft pole.
. This is a comparison between two cars, the 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X and 2008 BMW 335xi. Also what is this talk about leasing, are you kidding me, people actually lease out their EVOs, wow, I guess you learn something new each day. But since the VAST majority of EVO owners do not lease their EVOs, leasing should not even be brought up.Anyhow, I am tired about this 335i gains 100hp with just an ECU tune or chip, wrong, wrong, wrong, and this has been proven wrong countless number of times. Seriously, stock (dynojet) the car makes 265whp-280whp bone stock (a 335xi would be slightly less) and with for example a Proceed 1.47v your looking at 325whp-345whp. So pretty much a 60-65hp gain if your lucky. Impressive, but not a 100hp.
Who cares about names, this isn't a comparison about the company Mitsubishi vs. BMW now is it . This is a comparison between two cars, the 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X and 2008 BMW 335xi. Also what is this talk about leasing, are you kidding me, people actually lease out their EVOs, wow, I guess you learn something new each day. But since the VAST majority of EVO owners do not lease their EVOs, leasing should not even be brought up.
Anyhow, I am tired about this 335i gains 100hp with just an ECU tune or chip, wrong, wrong, wrong, and this has been proven wrong countless number of times. Seriously, stock (dynojet) the car makes 265whp-280whp bone stock (a 335xi would be slightly less) and with for example a Proceed 1.47v your looking at 325whp-345whp. So pretty much a 60-65hp gain if your lucky. Impressive, but not a 100hp.
. This is a comparison between two cars, the 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X and 2008 BMW 335xi. Also what is this talk about leasing, are you kidding me, people actually lease out their EVOs, wow, I guess you learn something new each day. But since the VAST majority of EVO owners do not lease their EVOs, leasing should not even be brought up.Anyhow, I am tired about this 335i gains 100hp with just an ECU tune or chip, wrong, wrong, wrong, and this has been proven wrong countless number of times. Seriously, stock (dynojet) the car makes 265whp-280whp bone stock (a 335xi would be slightly less) and with for example a Proceed 1.47v your looking at 325whp-345whp. So pretty much a 60-65hp gain if your lucky. Impressive, but not a 100hp.
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Leasing is maybe not dumb but I am not a fan of it either, not only do you have to return the car after the agreed period of time and get nothing back for it after all those lease payments (you do have the option to buy the vehicle as the lease expires but you will overpay from original MSRP), but then there are higher car insurance costs as leasing companies usually require higher amounts of coverage, and then there is the mileage limit per year (of course you can set the odometer back but thats not ethical). In the long run leased vehicle will cost you more.
But either way, cars are not for investments and never were, whether you buy it or lease it, you will lose money regardless, it's just that with leasing you'll probably lose more.
But either way, cars are not for investments and never were, whether you buy it or lease it, you will lose money regardless, it's just that with leasing you'll probably lose more.
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Comparison between a BASE 335xi and a LOADED Evo X MR is a bit unfair but anyway, those two cars offer different things, 335 is a more refined and luxurious sedan, Evo is more of a raw performance vehicle, I think those are two different markets.
As far as AWD systems go, BMW AWD system is much less complex than Evo X S-AWC, Evo X may not be as refined or as luxurious as the 3 series but when it comes to AWD system, it's way way ahead of BMW. Also, 335 uses Mitsubishi turbos, so that pretty much says a lot about Mitsubishi performance parts/systems when it comes to sport vehicles.
As far as AWD systems go, BMW AWD system is much less complex than Evo X S-AWC, Evo X may not be as refined or as luxurious as the 3 series but when it comes to AWD system, it's way way ahead of BMW. Also, 335 uses Mitsubishi turbos, so that pretty much says a lot about Mitsubishi performance parts/systems when it comes to sport vehicles.
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Who cares about names, this isn't a comparison about the company Mitsubishi vs. BMW now is it . This is a comparison between two cars, the 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X and 2008 BMW 335xi. Also what is this talk about leasing, are you kidding me, people actually lease out their EVOs, wow, I guess you learn something new each day. But since the VAST majority of EVO owners do not lease their EVOs, leasing should not even be brought up.
. This is a comparison between two cars, the 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X and 2008 BMW 335xi. Also what is this talk about leasing, are you kidding me, people actually lease out their EVOs, wow, I guess you learn something new each day. But since the VAST majority of EVO owners do not lease their EVOs, leasing should not even be brought up.The Evo X's AWD system will be the best in the world AFAIK when it's released.
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The only way to get v2.0 is by purchasing v1.47, the V2.0 is an upgrade of the V1.47, so in other words it is like getting tuned twice, and you still won't probably get 100hp more, not with out other mods such as catback exhaust, intake, race pipes, and possibly need to use the V2.02 map and some race fuel. Then the funny thing is your V2.0 probably won't even walk a much less expensive JB2R 335i, interesting. My point is, it is a lot more complicated than just buying a Proceed and then BAM, you got 370-390whp on pump gas. Sorry doesn't work like that.
Last edited by 3000ways; Nov 25, 2007 at 06:48 PM.
Leasing is maybe not dumb but I am not a fan of it either, not only do you have to return the car after the agreed period of time and get nothing back for it after all those lease payments (you do have the option to buy the vehicle as the lease expires but you will overpay from original MSRP), but then there are higher car insurance costs as leasing companies usually require higher amounts of coverage, and then there is the mileage limit per year (of course you can set the odometer back but thats not ethical). In the long run leased vehicle will cost you more.
But either way, cars are not for investments and never were, whether you buy it or lease it, you will lose money regardless, it's just that with leasing you'll probably lose more.
But either way, cars are not for investments and never were, whether you buy it or lease it, you will lose money regardless, it's just that with leasing you'll probably lose more.
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you forgot a few things VERY IMPORTANT
SAFTEY- (BMW) has side airbags and more side impact saftey feautures along with other tid bits such as anti air bag deployment sensors ect...
BREAKS- BMW has 13.7 front and 13.2 Rear Break diameter where else the X im sure will keep the evo 9's 12.6 diameter.
FINAL drive ratio- BMW has a lower 3.08 vs evo X of 3.18 AND FULL torque at a lower RPM approx. 1400 vs EVO X which is around 3400.
so BMW should be faster.
SAFTEY- (BMW) has side airbags and more side impact saftey feautures along with other tid bits such as anti air bag deployment sensors ect...
BREAKS- BMW has 13.7 front and 13.2 Rear Break diameter where else the X im sure will keep the evo 9's 12.6 diameter.
FINAL drive ratio- BMW has a lower 3.08 vs evo X of 3.18 AND FULL torque at a lower RPM approx. 1400 vs EVO X which is around 3400.
so BMW should be faster.
Interesting, both are great cars, but as another said, seems like the OP is comparing a fully loaded MR vs. a pretty much stripped down 335i. Honestly until you see the EVO X MR in person and get an upclose and personal view of both cars, many would consider the 335xi the likely choice, but that could easily change once you sit in and drive both cars. Until then this is my opinion on both cars-
2008 EVO X MR vs. 2008 BMW 335xi
Price- EVO X MR (Fully loaded MR for less then a stripped down 335xi)
Exterior Styling- EVO X MR (Both cars look nice, but seeing the EVO X MR in person changes your view entirely)
Interior Styling and Comfort- BMW 335xi (Barely, I mean the EVO X MR is fully loaded and the BMW is not. The BMW interior is spacious and has good quality, but extremely boring).
Interior Space- Tie (Believe it or not the EVO has a lot space)
Power- Tie (Seriously, pay no attention to factory HP ratings, both cars are underrated and most likely will put the same power down to the wheels. I expect 260-280whp to be the norm for both cars)
Weight- EVO X MR (Can you believe it, the MR is actually lighter than another car).
Handling- EVO X MR (We all pretty much agree the EVO X will handle even better than a EVO IX MR).
Brakes- EVO X MR (EVO weighs a little less, and has massive brembo brakes).
Transmission- Tie (The MR SST seems like it is better than any auto BMW has for the 3-Series. But I have to give BMW credit for allowing the option of a 6-Speed manual),
Build and Customer Service- BMW 335xi (Nobody should doubt this, BMW builds great cars and has above average customer service).
Fun to Drive- ??????? (Drive both cars and you make the choice)
Aftermarket Potential- BMW 335xi (Only reason why I say BMW is because, we do not have a clue as of now how good the EVO X will be to mod).
So as you see, it is a lot closer in my opinion than you would think. This also makes me think that the EVO X is a better comparison to the 3 series, while the new STI is better compared to the 1 series.
2008 EVO X MR vs. 2008 BMW 335xi
Price- EVO X MR (Fully loaded MR for less then a stripped down 335xi)
Exterior Styling- EVO X MR (Both cars look nice, but seeing the EVO X MR in person changes your view entirely)
Interior Styling and Comfort- BMW 335xi (Barely, I mean the EVO X MR is fully loaded and the BMW is not. The BMW interior is spacious and has good quality, but extremely boring).
Interior Space- Tie (Believe it or not the EVO has a lot space)
Power- Tie (Seriously, pay no attention to factory HP ratings, both cars are underrated and most likely will put the same power down to the wheels. I expect 260-280whp to be the norm for both cars)
Weight- EVO X MR (Can you believe it, the MR is actually lighter than another car).
Handling- EVO X MR (We all pretty much agree the EVO X will handle even better than a EVO IX MR).
Brakes- EVO X MR (EVO weighs a little less, and has massive brembo brakes).
Transmission- Tie (The MR SST seems like it is better than any auto BMW has for the 3-Series. But I have to give BMW credit for allowing the option of a 6-Speed manual),
Build and Customer Service- BMW 335xi (Nobody should doubt this, BMW builds great cars and has above average customer service).
Fun to Drive- ??????? (Drive both cars and you make the choice)
Aftermarket Potential- BMW 335xi (Only reason why I say BMW is because, we do not have a clue as of now how good the EVO X will be to mod).
So as you see, it is a lot closer in my opinion than you would think. This also makes me think that the EVO X is a better comparison to the 3 series, while the new STI is better compared to the 1 series.
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you forgot a few things VERY IMPORTANT
SAFTEY- (BMW) has side airbags and more side impact saftey feautures along with other tid bits such as anti air bag deployment sensors ect...
BREAKS- BMW has 13.7 front and 13.2 Rear Break diameter where else the X im sure will keep the evo 9's 12.6 diameter.
FINAL drive ratio- BMW has a lower 3.08 vs evo X of 3.18 AND FULL torque at a lower RPM approx. 1400 vs EVO X which is around 3400.
so BMW should be faster.
SAFTEY- (BMW) has side airbags and more side impact saftey feautures along with other tid bits such as anti air bag deployment sensors ect...
BREAKS- BMW has 13.7 front and 13.2 Rear Break diameter where else the X im sure will keep the evo 9's 12.6 diameter.
FINAL drive ratio- BMW has a lower 3.08 vs evo X of 3.18 AND FULL torque at a lower RPM approx. 1400 vs EVO X which is around 3400.
so BMW should be faster.
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All in all, I think Evo X seems like a better all-out performance vehicle than BMW 335i but then again BMW is more luxurious/civilized everyday driver althought performance wise it's not really that far off and the top end definately goes to the 335 because of the larger displacement and twin-turbos, you win some, you lose some, it all comes down to preferences.
As far as torque is concerned, I would imagine that a 3.0l twin turbo engine would produce more torque at a lower RPM than a 2.0l turbo engine. Also the new Evo X engine is high-rev happy. It's meant for more aggressive driving where BMW is more smooth and civilized.
Last edited by blitzkrieg79; Nov 26, 2007 at 09:41 AM.
you forgot a few things VERY IMPORTANT
SAFTEY- (BMW) has side airbags and more side impact saftey feautures along with other tid bits such as anti air bag deployment sensors ect...
BREAKS- BMW has 13.7 front and 13.2 Rear Break diameter where else the X im sure will keep the evo 9's 12.6 diameter.
FINAL drive ratio- BMW has a lower 3.08 vs evo X of 3.18 AND FULL torque at a lower RPM approx. 1400 vs EVO X which is around 3400.
so BMW should be faster.
SAFTEY- (BMW) has side airbags and more side impact saftey feautures along with other tid bits such as anti air bag deployment sensors ect...
BREAKS- BMW has 13.7 front and 13.2 Rear Break diameter where else the X im sure will keep the evo 9's 12.6 diameter.
FINAL drive ratio- BMW has a lower 3.08 vs evo X of 3.18 AND FULL torque at a lower RPM approx. 1400 vs EVO X which is around 3400.
so BMW should be faster.