For 335i, the 300HP is achieved at 5800rpm with a redline at 7000rpm.

 

Leasing an American car simply makes no sense. The residuals are so bad it is painful. Are the leases subsidized?

 

After owning two Evos and now having a 335xi coupe, I can chime in here with some real-world info.

The Evo is an amazing track car. The 335xi is the grown-up version. It's heavier, has more body roll, but has all of the power potential of the Evo with much much less lag. Parts are still in development, and the aftermarket isn't nearly as matured for the BMW, but it'll get there. It's a fantastic platform for someone who has outgrown his/her Evo. The creature comforts that you don't think you need in the Evo are immediately appreciated in the 335. Yes, it's more weight, more things to break, but the car is still fast and it's all under warranty. It's just a completely different animal. Heavier, more expensive, classier, and much quieter.

Here's my baseline dyno on a local Mustang.

 

Well stated opinion and thanks for the posted dyno numbers .

 

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BMW's fit and finish is only average IMO for an expensive higher-line car. Performance aside, all the hard platics, sharp edges, unfinished areas all smack a little bit of cheapness. And if you want navigation and some of the tech goodies, the infuriating I drive is a huge drawback.


But on the plus side, BMW's blown 6 is a fantastic motor and the hadling is always quite good with the Bimmer.

The EVO is going to be 5-7,000 less expensive when they are optioned the same. And the new X should be a far more comfortable every-day driver. The old evos will beat you to death, so it's hard to compare the new and still unavailable X with the BMW.

 

Actually I like the understated dashboards by BMW, the only thing that i ssupposed to stand between the car and the driver is the steering wheel, not an army of pretty dashboard buttons a la Infiniti that can be easily replaced by a knob that will do the job of 20 buttons. Ever noticed that cars such as Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini have rather plain looking dashboards? It's for a reason. It's called ergonomics.

 

that looks pretty cluttered with small buttons and intimidating to me

 

Good god an Automatic in a 997 Turbo.

 

Thanks for posting your dyno results. I think your paragraph is a very fair description of the differences between the Evos you owned and your 335.

But, you can also look at it this way...in your paragraph, if you replace all the "Evo" references with "Evo IX" and all the "BMW" & "335" references with "Evo X" and you just described the differences between the new Evo X and the Evo IX Funny how similar the Evo X is to the 335xi...especially when looking at both of them against an Evo IX. Mitsu wanted to move the X upmarket and build it for a new, older consumer. They've definitely accomplished that goal.

See below...

The Evo IX is an amazing track car. The Evo X is the grown-up version. It's heavier, has more body roll, but has all of the power potential of the Evo IX with much much less lag. Parts are still in development, and the aftermarket isn't nearly as matured for the Evo X, but it'll get there. It's a fantastic platform for someone who has outgrown his/her Evo IX. The creature comforts that you don't think you need in the Evo IX are immediately appreciated in the Evo X. Yes, it's more weight, more things to break, but the car is still fast and it's all under warranty. It's just a completely different animal. Heavier, more expensive, classier, and much quieter.

 

I thought that interior was pretty sweet looking and then I saw the auto-stick...I almost vomited all over my screen.

Haha, way to go Sherlock !

 

Ahhhhh, what the hell... Ok then, scratch Porsche of my uncluttered dashboard list. Anyway, BMWs dashboards look understated as well as the new Lancer dashboard, basically there are the radio buttons and the HVAC knobs which do the same tasks as some of the more cluttered with buttons dashboard designs. Anyway, cluttered dashboards may look more pretty or whatever but they are definately not as functional as simple and intuitive dash layouts. Car dashboard is supposed to be simple where the driver can simply concentrate on the driving rather than looking in despair at the dashboard looking for a heated seats button.

 

Oooh...we need a smiley emoticon thingy for "Sherlock"

 

Wait...found a couple "Sherlock" emoticons...

 

Yeah, I noticed this while I was typing out the paragraph. However, in all honesty, the X doesn't seem to be anywhere near the 335xi in terms of class or quality. I doubt it will be much more expensive than the IX, and I really doubt it'll be any quieter than a IX once someone puts a 3" exhaust on it..