I wanna buy an X but I havent driven a 08 lancer yet. I got no idea how it feels.

If anyone has had the opportunity to drive the following, please, tell me your feedback.

04 Lancer RalliArt-

08 Lancer-

Which one seems closes to an EVO.

 

I have the GTS and it does drive well. The handling is what you notice the most.
Taking curves seem effortless.
Understeer is almost non-existent.
With RRMs aftermarket parts, it will carve the roads even better.

From what has been said and experienced is that
1. 08 GTS has 40% more structural enhancements(bending rigidity) then the IX.
2. The X is to have 60% (bending rigidity) more then the GTS.

So that is a total of 100% more rigidity then the IX.
That is some serious ****.

The GTS has excellent suspension and you can feel the road but overall, it's great.
Aside from the power which it lacks, and can be increased (limited), it is def worth looking at.
From tuners side, the manual would be a far wiser choice. I have the CVT and I dig it. On the transmission, it is entirely up to you.

Which drives like an EVO? I would have to say none of them do.
But you def notice how strong the body of the GTS is.
No contest on that.

Hope this helps.

 

i'm sorry, but i thought that was especially hilarious. as for the Ralliart, my brother has an 05 and it is the undisputed GOD of understeer. he added a rear sway and better tires...that helped some, but the thing still handles like a retarded moose on rollerblades. i have a honda accord that i used for autocross, and when it was bone stock it handled better than that Ralliart...wayyyy better. the accord's got coilovers, sways, strut bars etc now so it easily runs circles around that RA, and could usually keep up with my EVO around a corner. as far as handling goes, the only lancer worth a damn is the EVO.

you're never going to know what an EVO drives like until you drive an EVO. the closest thing to driving an EVO X would be driving an EVO VIII, IX, or even some other cars from other manufacturers. driving any regular lancer isn't going to be anything like driving an EVO X.

 

the 08 , but to being closest is not a same as a close , i hope you know that.

 

Why would it be hilarious? I drive the 08 GTS. The handling and the steering works extremely well. Much better then any of the previous generations.
I am not fond of any Lancer other then 08's. The GTS handling handles better then alot of cars out there. When I am taking a turn no matter how hard it is, the GTS responds very well & he is asking for opinons about the GTS or an OZ.
The chassis on the GTS is better then the IX and it is the foundation of the X. For a DD, this car is great. And I will be switching over to the X, thanks to the impression the GTS has given me.

So what I am giving him is my opinion and exp as well as a few facts to entice.

AND I did tell him that neither of them drive like and Evo.
or are you another with A.D.D? Simply one who is very selective on what they read and respond to?
But to taste the handling of the GTS is a taste of the what the X has to offer.
That same statement has been used in Sport Compact. So...where is the humor?


Because this is what he asked for!

If anyone has had the opportunity to drive the following, please, tell me your feedback.

04 Lancer RalliArt-

08 Lancer-

Which one seems closes to an EVO?

 

I went to southcoast mitsubishi on friday night and got the salesman to let me drive a red evo X. IMO it felt very stiff but at the same time the bumps on the road were smooth. Its kind of hard to explain without being in one i guess. Another thing i noticed was that it had almost 0 turbo lag to me. It feels alot more powerful than i remember my stock evo IX to be and most of all it DID NOT feel heavy. I was afriad it was going to feel heavy. The only thing i noticed that i didnt like about the ride (which was one of my more important things i was looking for) was how the steering felt. It felt a little loose. It still has quick steering but just doesnt feel as tight as the IX. I'm sure it just something you'd have to get used to.

All in all, the car felt amazing. And if you dont own a current evo and are interested in buying the new one. There's no dought you shouldn't.

o yeah and the seats feel better than our current evos seats imo. They CUP your body more.

 

Not picking on you, just pointing out a common math error.

if GTS = IX x 1.4 and X = GTS x 1.6, X = 2.24 IX

The Evo X should have 2.24 times the bending rigidity of Evo IX.

 

what was hilarious was the "understeer is almost non existent." compared to what? not moving at all? Even S2K's understeer more than most people would like, so to go so far as to say that "understeer is almost non existent" in a lancer is pretty ridiculous. take that thing to a road course or at least an autocross and watch it push like a pig with a broken leg the first time you try to take it into a corner too hard.

and as someone pointed out, just because one of those two is closer than the other, it doesn't mean that it's ANYWHERE close to the EVO. i'm 6'4" my brother is 5'10" and my sister is 5'6". if you ask the question which one is closest to my height, my brother is. but does that mean he's close to my height at all? No. so if you were trying to give someone an idea of how tall 6'4" was, just because he's closer than my sister, it doesn't mean he's anywhere near my height. he's still half a foot away. we'd need to get my brother in law who is 6'2" for a better comparison. the guy should stop looking at lancers and go look at something that can actually handle.

an S2K, 350Z, STi, WRX, or some other type of performance car would give you a better idea of what an EVO feels like than a POS lancer. none of them will handle anything like an EVO, but something with high power and high handling limits will be closer than a 16 second econobox that pulls an underwhelming .83g on the skidpad. not to mention the terrible slalom speed.

 

Your height is not a great analogy for an example. That height analogy does not justify as an example for this comparison test cause there is much more to compare then just someone's height vs the EVO's power, driving. weight, handling etc.
Unless your telling me the weight, strength, walking steps formulating SPM (Steps per minute etc) Then you have a more factors that can be part of the equation.
ALL cars have understeer, just more so then others. In comparison to other cars of the Lancer's class. The Lancer wins. Even if it was on an autocross track, the understeer would'nt be as harsh for it's class. Perhaps non-existent it TOO strong for a LANCER but the car's understeer is much less then a Corrolla, the previous Lancers, etc. ONLY in its class.
And FOR THE LAST TIME I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THIS cause you still CANNOT read. I said that NEITHER car which is to say the O4 RALLIART or the 08 LANCER does not come close to the EVO. The EVOX maybe, cause of it's DNA(whatever you wanna use for the terminology.) SO you who is still harping on the Lancer and it's comparison to the EVOX is in poor understanding.
The poster of this thread asked WHICH OF THE 2 feels like an EVO.
DAAAAAMMMNNNN. I swear. Selective reading at its finest.
Seems like you didn't read the topic of the thread as well as the question he was asking.

And on the Lancer's defense, I don't know how much experience you have over some of the Car Magazine reviewers, testers but obviously you are putting your self on top of the pack. These guys who reviewed the LANCER stated that with the Lancer new body, you are getting a TASTE of what the EVOX has to offer.
So is that close? Yes it is, by a small margin.

 

Thanks for that.
With those revised numbers, that is quite a feat.

 

the height comparison is a good analogy if i wasn't talking to an idiot. i'll just explain the point since you missed it:

just because thing #1 is closer to thing #3 than thing #2 doesn't mean it's anywhere close to thing #3. if you want a better idea of what thing #3 is, there should be a thing #4 that's closer. get it yet?

as for magazine editors, for the most part they write to hype **** up, to make their article sound better, and that's about it. they aren't the best driver's in the world, so i don't trust their numbers, reviews, etc. i'd much rather go out and drive the car myself. the reason i say they aren't especially great drivers is because no magazine i've ever seen has ever been able to break 12's in a stock EVO IX of any generation. i've seen some not be able to break low 13's even. mid-high 13's for a stock EVO IX is a disgrace. i've also seen one comparo in particular in which an EVO IX MR, 350Z track package, and Cobalt SS were running a road course.... the Cobalt had higher ENTRY, AND EXIT SPEEDS than both the Z and EVO or more than one occasion.... if these idiots knew what they were doing, theres no way that would be possible. the Z also posted faster lap times than the EVO pretty much every lap...also shouldn't have been possible if they knew what they were doing.

so you can keep reading magazines and testing cars by reading...i'd much rather just get one and beat the hell out of it to see what it can do. i'll be sure to keep my analogies simpler for you next time since you have trouble understanding.

 

You know, I won't even entertain this debate with you anymore.
And nope, I don't get it. Your example is in bad taste because the comparison your making is a 2-dimensional solution to a 3-dimensional equation. Get a book and read for once. Perhaps you might be able to keep up with linguisitics. The part is that you don't understand on how to address your argument much less your answer to KLIPSCHO in which you didn't even answer him in the first place.
So the only person that looks like an idiot is the guy who couldn't even read in the first place still trying to defend his EVO with all his mods and still running a 12 by throwing his arrogant comments and his so called superior experience in which doesn't even help the original poster AND looking at your signature, you just made yourself look like a clown. Just like the other thread.

Next time make sure you read the post, answer it and if you want to make analogies - don't.
You just can't do it. Sorry.

And one more thing, these so called magazine editors, reviewers, car testers and so forth, get paid to do what they do.
I would rather START off listening to someone who's job and life is dedicated in this field vs some jackass that only considers himself an expert because he has a "2006" IX.
What do you do? LOL
Oh and that was a rheotorical question. In case you didn't notice.

What a waste of a thread!
Apologies to mods.
Finito.

 

go to a dealer and drive one

 

Thanks for the info, homie.

And the rest of you, wtf is up with this ****. The man was just trying to answer my question. I feel he gave me a good response since it was a simple question. Which is closest to the EVO X, 08 Lancer or 04 Ralliart? He told me Lancer GTS is closest to EVO X due to it's body and handling and him telling me that it handles well, just completely answers my question because I know how ****ty the Ralliart handles. Now, instead of trying to answer my question, you all just go off topic to flame the one of the TWO people who actually tried to help... Out of all the car forums I go to which is like 3 only including this one, this is the most annoying cause some people literally dedicate their day to flaming others. Grow up guys, be helpful not hurtful.

Thank you chino and Dosagex for actually being a real forum member.

 

it is possible for a front wheel driver to have almost no understeer. A first generation neon with well tuned suspension will tend to be practically neutral with the ability to actually throw the back end out. There are many design elements of that neon chassis incorporated into the GTS/new lancer platform. It may be ridiculous for an old school lancer but for the GTS its entirely possible.