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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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^ I like how you factored in the tickets, nice move.
Flying is not free.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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8k markup here in AK. They will sell a couple of them. But after they sit for a few months, they will knock down the price on them. I bought my IX SE for 1k under MSRP, took a few hours and threatening to leave, but we came to a good deal.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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the cost of improvement lol
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 18bora
Flying is not free.
OH I thought you meant speeding tickets...
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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OH I thought you meant speeding tickets...
I thought the same. He stated 3 days for driving back, then the tickets afterward. Driving + tickets = speeding fine (is what I thought).
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by machron1
OH I thought you meant speeding tickets...
Haha I was pretty sure he meant airline tickets but the way he listed it confused me too. I didn't factor speeding tickets into the equation though, could be an important variable.

Still trying to figure out the logistics of a cross-country trip back to Jersey. I think the wear and tear + mileage would bother me more than the gas money and hotels, etc. I look at it as more of a road trip/vacation than a tedious drive since I'd probably stop off to party in the major cities along the way if I did make the trip.

At least the car would be broken in by the time I got her home...
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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This is why I hate the East Coast, the NorthEast in particular, dealerships there are god awful and everything it 10x more expensive (lived in CT for 19 years, I dont think I could ever move back there).
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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yikes
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlesJ
There are a number of dealerships on the east coast I have been talking to that are interested in becoming vendors and offering member pricing, none over msrp. Just a matter of them actually signing up. I tell every single dealer that is interested in signing up that if the plan on selling over MSRP they are wasting their time. I also heavily advise them to work on having a evo friendly service department

Indeed. I spoke with Charles about 10 days ago concerning becoming a part of the vendor network, but ran into some corporate red tape. Its a shame, because I got the GSM and Mitsu managers on board. Our volume is simply too small -we have 07 Galants and Outlanders on the lot, and unless we sell them we cannot get the volume of Evo X's to compete at that price point. Sure, we will sell you our 08 GSR at sticker, but we have ONE. Thats it. Advertising works, and should we sell it, we have nothing left. Interested in a 2007 Eclipse Spyder at 4k off sticker? Didn't think so. And that is why so many small and mid sized dealers don't grow -we are not allocated the products that the buying public wants. Blame the distribution networks, El Nino, Ted Turner, Al Qaeda, global warming, whatever. I could sell 10 Evos a month on THIS website...... if they were here.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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I had a dealer in Michigan tell me $42k for a base model over the phone. When I told him I found a dealer in california who would do it in the low 30's his reply was "Well maybe you should buy it and bring it back here and sell it."

I just hungup on his ignorant hind end so I wouldnt come unglued on his rude self. Friggin people..... CROOKS I should say.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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^ Maybe you should do that though and bankrupt their dealership.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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do a group buy

I dun really understand the logic for marking up cars ,
is like u are betting on $1k -> $20k markup with the potential damages to dealership's reputation. Your customers will be angry at you no matter what.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fevo
do a group buy

I dun really understand the logic for marking up cars ,
is like u are betting on $1k -> $20k markup with the potential damages to dealership's reputation. Your customers will be angry at you no matter what.
Some dealers (corporate owned) do not markup their vehicles. Some do, for different reasons. In our Chevy store we have a new 2008 Tahoe Hybrid with a sticker around 55k. The sale price is 75k. The reason is that this is one of maybe 100 for sale nationwide. We have it for sale, but the showroom traffic it generates is making us money by just sitting still. We are not eager to sell it at sticker and make 2,000 in gross profit because it is a novelty and it brings people by. If someone wants it at 75k, we will part with it. Is this "Greed" in the same manner that GT-R dealers are charging a huge markup? Maybe. But this is a business and its not a wise business decision to sell it at MSRP right now.

The EVO X is a whole nother animal. Some dealers are sleaze and gouge eager buyers. Some, like us, have corporate orders to set the price on our cars at ____ and whatever that number is, we can't budge. Lots of factors go into the price, including demand, location, and availability. Judge a dealer by how they treat you, not just by what they ask for the car. The car business is tough right now and most salespeople are not making what they did just a few years ago. Selling a car at 5,000 over sticker could pocket a salesperson 2 grand on 1 deal - for some unlucky ones, that is more than they make in 240 hours at work in a bad month. Most people in this business don't have the luxury of a 40 hour work week and paid vacation. A deal might only pocket someone 75 bucks, and may have taken 3 days to work. I know people who worked 6 days a week for 30 days and made less than 400 dollars. "Greedy" indeed.

Markups will be gone soon enough, and the public will be protected from the car dealers who are out to make a fast buck. But paying sticker is not a "ripoff" nor should dealers who ask for sticker be slammed by the public for trying to run a profitable business. If you want an Evo at sticker, look harder. They are out there, available from honest folks who work hard, and the buying experience just might surprise you.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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^ But even at dealerships that are instructed specifically not to mark car prices up, there are ways around them. With rarer models that would normally get marked up at any other dealership not under specific instructions, they might keep the MSRP the same but they would have dealer-installed parts (aftermarket wheels, navigation system, etc.) with HUGE markups.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleChris
But paying sticker is not a "ripoff" nor should dealers who ask for sticker be slammed by the public for trying to run a profitable business.
I would not badly judge a dealership that tries to sell a car for MSRP. A dealership markup it up any bit whatsoever...well that's another story.
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