i went to see the x today and was highly impressed with the exterior..
but the interior was blah.. imo the x is a much more relaxed car than the ix..
to me the x is a chill car rather than the ix's ballz to the wall look..
to me they have toned the evo down a few notches..all n all the car looks sick as hell but i really dont think that this car can hang with the ix..i didnt drive it..i just saw it and giving my impressions on it..but who knows it might be just like the ix

 

That's not true at all. Magazines bash some cars like there's no tomorrow. Road and track and all the other magazines have loads of sponsors and make plenty of money between that and the millions of subscriptions that people have with them. They don't take bribes from manufacturers to make cars sound better than they really are. If that was the case then you would never read anything bad about a car, and the reviews would praise every car and tell you that it's perfect. The magazines stay in business purely on giving unbiased, no nonsense reviews. If a car sucks, then they have no problem saying so. Your comment was ridiculous, and if you want to think that then you are free to do so, but I assure you that that is not correct.

 

I have heard differently. When I was at a black-tie dinner at GM headquarters a couple years back, a very well-to-due corp. exec. hinted at there being certain "biases" amongst magazines and manufacturers due to monetary reasons. Obviously if a car is a pile of garbage, they arent going to say its gold. But when it comes down to car-of-the-year awards and shedding light on more of the positives of a car versus the negatives...it certainly is not an impossibility.

I'm not saying they did it with the X, nor do I have any proof or evidence to support what I have heard; but i'd certainly agree that it is plausable. To say that they only write honest reviews and that there is nothing that could sway them? No offense, but that just seems a bit naive.

 

leave him alone he knows.

 

well then certanly you can come up, with any sports car review wich is came up with the conclusion: the new is not as good then the old model , right?
Since you always try to say the opposite, what i said , but you never back it up your statments. Just only fact i heard from you so far the famous: i 'm telling you...

Since these are articles, you can come up at least 5 of them easy ,right?

 

street tuner challenge ... the winner is : Ford focus SE
over come on the Mini cooper S and the EVo....
How cute is that!.. I should have known better. 'Cos i would rocking the Focus today on the track instead the Evo!
I should have listen...

 

I've subscribed to the major auto rags for the last ~35 years. While I cannot claim that reviews are influenced by advertising revenue, as I have nothing to support the claim, I can say that new car reviews are almost always positive. An authentic opinion, if you will, is often revealed after a new model is introduced and compared to its replacement that suddenly isn't as good as originally published. Cliches like grown-up and refined (one of the most misused words in the automotive lingo) are introduced over and over with little regard for consistency or application.

<grin> Check out the X review from Motive. The writer went to a press junket, drove the X and the IX around a parking lot, and then declared the X to be quicker in every way. Nothing was timed or tracked with any degree of empirical accuracy, yet he relied on his finely calibrated butt dyno to make a universal claim after being wined and dined by the marketing folks. Then, he paraphrased the press kit and the article was finished. This isn't exactly my idea of fine journalism.

 

Edit: No Point In Arguing Over This. No good can come from this discussion, as there isn't even a real topic of discussion here anymore. It was a biased review of the car, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. Robevo, stop trying to irritate people.

 

you just proved yourself again... ^

 

I work in advertising. Have been working on car accounts for the past 10 years. I know, FOR A FACT, that advertising spend influences the number of articles written about a company's cars and the quality of the articles that are written. It shows up in varying degrees depending on the magazine. Yes, the magazines try to keep a separation between "chuch & state." Church being editorial coverage and state being sales. All car magazines function the same way to some varying degree. It's a "you scratch our back, we'll scratch your back" type of relationship. I've had numerous discussions with salespeople at the magazines, PR people at the car companies and discussions with the people on my team who actually buy the media. I've been in discussions where we've been forbidden by a client to take money away from the car magazines because they don't want to lose PR coverage.

It happens. It's just the nature of the beast. Advertising revenue pays the bills. Subscriptions don't.

 

Can we retitle this thread please?

"People start talking about advertising just because one guy didn't give a positive review of the Evo X"

 

This thread is pointless...

 

Man, not every comment about the X is going to be positive. It's not a perfect car in EVERYBODY'S mind. Why can't you accept that?

 

Because when you've just purchased a brand new car, you'd like it better if people fawn all over your new toy. Otherwise, you believe negative comments are an attack on your intelligence.

Bad logic, I know. But the Evo X fanbase/homer attitude seems to have taken full flight already.

Evo X people: there are GREAT things and there are BAD things about your car. Just like any other vehicle.

Period.

 

I don't think my car is perfect, and the reason that I said this thread is pointless is because it isn't going anywhere. Every car has pros and cons, but it just amazes me when people genuinely don't want to like something just because they like what they got so much. It's almost like it makes them feel more content with their car by not letting themselves like another. I love the 9, and just because I have a X doesn't mean that I don't give the 9 credit for being a great car. The problem however is that I think that people who have 9's blindly hate X's far more than the other way around. Canexican falls into this category. When someone goes to look at a car with a mindset of not liking the car, then they are going to force themselves to not like what they see. Canexican doesn't like the X because he's in love with his 9, so when he writes a review of his impressions of the car it is going to be negative no matter what. This thread is pointless because it's not really a topic of discussion with any real depth. It's either going to be people agreeing or disagreeing, and it's pointless. I am leaving this thread alone now, I don't feel like wasting my time anymore. I'll see you guys in the worthwhile threads.