My aesthetic opinions of the X...
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My aesthetic opinions of the X...
Well, they got a X in at a dealership near where I live, so I went to take a look. These are just my impressions from an aesthetic standpoint as I was not able to take it for a ride 
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The interior materials actually seem cheaper than the IX. The plastics look sooo bland that the textured plastics in my IX almost seem high-end by comparison. The dash layout seems to be much more ergonomically efficient, but its very boring. I guess that is fine for a sports car, but I really dont see how this is supposed to appeal to those looking at BMW, Audi, and Lexus. Surprisingly, I kinda liked the equal sized binnacles for the tach and speedo. The HVAC knobs were much nicer too. I even didnt mind the aluminum/carbon/shiny/whatever-the-hell-it-is dash treatment. The white LED's were a nice touch as well. The central information display is interesting and can show alot of different things, including outside air temp, digital gas gauge, S-AWC display, engine temp, and a whole bunch of other important things. But, as neat and compact as it is, I can see it getting annoying after awhile when you have to cycle through the menu with a dash button (not on the steering wheel - would make more sense) just to see if your car is warm or how much gas you have left. The door sills seem taller with a smaller greenhouse, so you do feel a bit more secure and inside the vehicle. It doesnt exactly feel like a tin can when inside.
The steering wheel was smaller than I thought it would be, but the leather is not as grippy. I can see how people complain that when you turn the wheel, the spokes block the guages...could be annoying if you were driving hard in back roads or autoxing. The shift knob is crappy (then again so was the IX's), but as most have complained, the shift boot looks like it came from a dollar store. The trunk was the size of suitcase. It amazed me how tiny it was. They put the battery and the wiper fluid in the center of the trunk, thus basically rendering it useless. I've seen convertibles with comparable trunk space. You could get one set of golf clubs in there...as long as the bag is not too bulky. There didnt seem to be any more legroom than the IX, in fact, it seemed to be slightly smaller. The fact that everything in the interior was either crappy black cloth or crappy black plastic just screamed cheap. I think my IX is more visually stimulating. Although, I will say this, those seats are awesome. They are so comfortable and supportive (the thigh and hip bolstering is great) that I almost forgot the fact that they are upholstered in crap cloth...almost. Overall, I'd give the interior a 6/10.
From an exterior standpoint, I thought it was pretty sharp. Its bulky and chunky, but the lines flow better than the IX. The thing is though, that it is not very easily distinguishable as an Evo. The stock wing is the same as a regular lancer with an appearance package and the fender flares are too subtle. From a side perspective, it looks almost exactly the same as a base lancer. Sure, the front is black and the rear has a black diffuser, but it just seems to lack the character that the IX and VIII's posses. When the Ralliart comes out, it is going to be even more difficult to distinguish. With the VIII and IX, there is really no mistaking it. The brakes looked gigantic, but the wheels were pretty mediocre - I'd want the MR wheels. Overall, it is an intense look, but not as intense as it should be with respect to its lesser performing bretheren. I give it 8/10.
Would have loved to have driven the car, but they were closing up for the day and it was their only one - so it was pretty much limited to showroom duty unless I would put down a deposit. I'll go back when they get a few more. I'm sure I would have been let down by the acceleration anyway. After I got back in my IX, it seemed like such an outdated interior design, but it works well - probably better than the X. Just my .02.
.The interior materials actually seem cheaper than the IX. The plastics look sooo bland that the textured plastics in my IX almost seem high-end by comparison. The dash layout seems to be much more ergonomically efficient, but its very boring. I guess that is fine for a sports car, but I really dont see how this is supposed to appeal to those looking at BMW, Audi, and Lexus. Surprisingly, I kinda liked the equal sized binnacles for the tach and speedo. The HVAC knobs were much nicer too. I even didnt mind the aluminum/carbon/shiny/whatever-the-hell-it-is dash treatment. The white LED's were a nice touch as well. The central information display is interesting and can show alot of different things, including outside air temp, digital gas gauge, S-AWC display, engine temp, and a whole bunch of other important things. But, as neat and compact as it is, I can see it getting annoying after awhile when you have to cycle through the menu with a dash button (not on the steering wheel - would make more sense) just to see if your car is warm or how much gas you have left. The door sills seem taller with a smaller greenhouse, so you do feel a bit more secure and inside the vehicle. It doesnt exactly feel like a tin can when inside.
The steering wheel was smaller than I thought it would be, but the leather is not as grippy. I can see how people complain that when you turn the wheel, the spokes block the guages...could be annoying if you were driving hard in back roads or autoxing. The shift knob is crappy (then again so was the IX's), but as most have complained, the shift boot looks like it came from a dollar store. The trunk was the size of suitcase. It amazed me how tiny it was. They put the battery and the wiper fluid in the center of the trunk, thus basically rendering it useless. I've seen convertibles with comparable trunk space. You could get one set of golf clubs in there...as long as the bag is not too bulky. There didnt seem to be any more legroom than the IX, in fact, it seemed to be slightly smaller. The fact that everything in the interior was either crappy black cloth or crappy black plastic just screamed cheap. I think my IX is more visually stimulating. Although, I will say this, those seats are awesome. They are so comfortable and supportive (the thigh and hip bolstering is great) that I almost forgot the fact that they are upholstered in crap cloth...almost. Overall, I'd give the interior a 6/10.
From an exterior standpoint, I thought it was pretty sharp. Its bulky and chunky, but the lines flow better than the IX. The thing is though, that it is not very easily distinguishable as an Evo. The stock wing is the same as a regular lancer with an appearance package and the fender flares are too subtle. From a side perspective, it looks almost exactly the same as a base lancer. Sure, the front is black and the rear has a black diffuser, but it just seems to lack the character that the IX and VIII's posses. When the Ralliart comes out, it is going to be even more difficult to distinguish. With the VIII and IX, there is really no mistaking it. The brakes looked gigantic, but the wheels were pretty mediocre - I'd want the MR wheels. Overall, it is an intense look, but not as intense as it should be with respect to its lesser performing bretheren. I give it 8/10.
Would have loved to have driven the car, but they were closing up for the day and it was their only one - so it was pretty much limited to showroom duty unless I would put down a deposit. I'll go back when they get a few more. I'm sure I would have been let down by the acceleration anyway. After I got back in my IX, it seemed like such an outdated interior design, but it works well - probably better than the X. Just my .02.
go ahead, keep hating the X
Well, they got a X in at a dealership near where I live, so I went to take a look. These are just my impressions from an aesthetic standpoint as I was not able to take it for a ride .
The interior materials actually seem cheaper than the IX. The plastics look sooo bland that the textured plastics in my IX almost seem high-end by comparison. The dash layout seems to be much more ergonomically efficient, but its very boring. I guess that is fine for a sports car, but I really dont see how this is supposed to appeal to those looking at BMW, Audi, and Lexus. Surprisingly, I kinda liked the equal sized binnacles for the tach and speedo. The HVAC knobs were much nicer too. I even didnt mind the aluminum/carbon/shiny/whatever-the-hell-it-is dash treatment. The white LED's were a nice touch as well. The central information display is interesting and can show alot of different things, including outside air temp, digital gas gauge, S-AWC display, engine temp, and a whole bunch of other important things. But, as neat and compact as it is, I can see it getting annoying after awhile when you have to cycle through the menu with a dash button (not on the steering wheel - would make more sense) just to see if your car is warm or how much gas you have left. The door sills seem taller with a smaller greenhouse, so you do feel a bit more secure and inside the vehicle. It doesnt exactly feel like a tin can when inside.
The steering wheel was smaller than I thought it would be, but the leather is not as grippy. I can see how people complain that when you turn the wheel, the spokes block the guages...could be annoying if you were driving hard in back roads or autoxing. The shift knob is crappy (then again so was the IX's), but as most have complained, the shift boot looks like it came from a dollar store. The trunk was the size of suitcase. It amazed me how tiny it was. They put the battery and the wiper fluid in the center of the trunk, thus basically rendering it useless. I've seen convertibles with comparable trunk space. You could get one set of golf clubs in there...as long as the bag is not too bulky. There didnt seem to be any more legroom than the IX, in fact, it seemed to be slightly smaller. The fact that everything in the interior was either crappy black cloth or crappy black plastic just screamed cheap. I think my IX is more visually stimulating. Although, I will say this, those seats are awesome. They are so comfortable and supportive (the thigh and hip bolstering is great) that I almost forgot the fact that they are upholstered in crap cloth...almost. Overall, I'd give the interior a 6/10.
From an exterior standpoint, I thought it was pretty sharp. Its bulky and chunky, but the lines flow better than the IX. The thing is though, that it is not very easily distinguishable as an Evo. The stock wing is the same as a regular lancer with an appearance package and the fender flares are too subtle. From a side perspective, it looks almost exactly the same as a base lancer. Sure, the front is black and the rear has a black diffuser, but it just seems to lack the character that the IX and VIII's posses. When the Ralliart comes out, it is going to be even more difficult to distinguish. With the VIII and IX, there is really no mistaking it. The brakes looked gigantic, but the wheels were pretty mediocre - I'd want the MR wheels. Overall, it is an intense look, but not as intense as it should be with respect to its lesser performing bretheren. I give it 8/10.
Would have loved to have driven the car, but they were closing up for the day and it was their only one - so it was pretty much limited to showroom duty unless I would put down a deposit. I'll go back when they get a few more. I'm sure I would have been let down by the acceleration anyway. After I got back in my IX, it seemed like such an outdated interior design, but it works well - probably better than the X. Just my .02.
.The interior materials actually seem cheaper than the IX. The plastics look sooo bland that the textured plastics in my IX almost seem high-end by comparison. The dash layout seems to be much more ergonomically efficient, but its very boring. I guess that is fine for a sports car, but I really dont see how this is supposed to appeal to those looking at BMW, Audi, and Lexus. Surprisingly, I kinda liked the equal sized binnacles for the tach and speedo. The HVAC knobs were much nicer too. I even didnt mind the aluminum/carbon/shiny/whatever-the-hell-it-is dash treatment. The white LED's were a nice touch as well. The central information display is interesting and can show alot of different things, including outside air temp, digital gas gauge, S-AWC display, engine temp, and a whole bunch of other important things. But, as neat and compact as it is, I can see it getting annoying after awhile when you have to cycle through the menu with a dash button (not on the steering wheel - would make more sense) just to see if your car is warm or how much gas you have left. The door sills seem taller with a smaller greenhouse, so you do feel a bit more secure and inside the vehicle. It doesnt exactly feel like a tin can when inside.
The steering wheel was smaller than I thought it would be, but the leather is not as grippy. I can see how people complain that when you turn the wheel, the spokes block the guages...could be annoying if you were driving hard in back roads or autoxing. The shift knob is crappy (then again so was the IX's), but as most have complained, the shift boot looks like it came from a dollar store. The trunk was the size of suitcase. It amazed me how tiny it was. They put the battery and the wiper fluid in the center of the trunk, thus basically rendering it useless. I've seen convertibles with comparable trunk space. You could get one set of golf clubs in there...as long as the bag is not too bulky. There didnt seem to be any more legroom than the IX, in fact, it seemed to be slightly smaller. The fact that everything in the interior was either crappy black cloth or crappy black plastic just screamed cheap. I think my IX is more visually stimulating. Although, I will say this, those seats are awesome. They are so comfortable and supportive (the thigh and hip bolstering is great) that I almost forgot the fact that they are upholstered in crap cloth...almost. Overall, I'd give the interior a 6/10.
From an exterior standpoint, I thought it was pretty sharp. Its bulky and chunky, but the lines flow better than the IX. The thing is though, that it is not very easily distinguishable as an Evo. The stock wing is the same as a regular lancer with an appearance package and the fender flares are too subtle. From a side perspective, it looks almost exactly the same as a base lancer. Sure, the front is black and the rear has a black diffuser, but it just seems to lack the character that the IX and VIII's posses. When the Ralliart comes out, it is going to be even more difficult to distinguish. With the VIII and IX, there is really no mistaking it. The brakes looked gigantic, but the wheels were pretty mediocre - I'd want the MR wheels. Overall, it is an intense look, but not as intense as it should be with respect to its lesser performing bretheren. I give it 8/10.
Would have loved to have driven the car, but they were closing up for the day and it was their only one - so it was pretty much limited to showroom duty unless I would put down a deposit. I'll go back when they get a few more. I'm sure I would have been let down by the acceleration anyway. After I got back in my IX, it seemed like such an outdated interior design, but it works well - probably better than the X. Just my .02.
Last edited by pltek; Feb 23, 2008 at 07:35 PM.
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I don't see why everyone should be jumping on this guy--I think his aesthetic judgment is pretty accurate, at least IMHO. Yeah the last paragraph was a tad subjective but not crazy. I kept sitting in those COMFORTABLE seats staring at the CHEAP dash. *Sigh, such is the conflict with this new Evo.
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Cute, keep labeling me as a hater because you don't like what I have to say.
My info. is straight. Unless the interior is completely redone on the MR model, my opinion is not going to change - its bland and mediocre at best.
Look, I know people have reviewed and discussed aesthetics a thousand times with this car...I just thought I'd throw my view out there considering the car is still quite new to the community.
I made many comments before this car came out and pltek seems to remember me being a "hater." Well, he's entitled to his judgemental opinion I guess. It wasnt the car I was hoping for and it is still not the car I was hoping for. I still want to drive it and I'm sure the handling will really impress me if nothing else does. I may buy this car in a couple of years depending on if they offer different packages and depending on how tunable it proves to be. I think it is a nice car and I really want to like it, but I was looking for a bat out of hell that would undoubtedly destroy my IX in every performance category, including aesthetics...that is not what I saw before it was released and that is not what I have seen thus far.
It lacks the raw/purposeful feel that the other past Evo models have had and just seems to be so much more corporate and soul-less. It is cool, but doesnt feel truly special...like the barely street-legal car that the IX was. I know it is somewhat of an iinevitability for something like this to happen to a beloved car like the VIII and IX, but there have been occasions where cars got both more civilized and hardcore at the same time: i.e. C5 vette to C6 vette. Hopefully, the next time I get into an Evo X, my opinion will evolve. But until that time, I guess you can keep calling me a "hater."
P.s. Thanks to those that appreciate what I was trying to convey
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Look, I know people have reviewed and discussed aesthetics a thousand times with this car...I just thought I'd throw my view out there considering the car is still quite new to the community.
I made many comments before this car came out and pltek seems to remember me being a "hater." Well, he's entitled to his judgemental opinion I guess. It wasnt the car I was hoping for and it is still not the car I was hoping for. I still want to drive it and I'm sure the handling will really impress me if nothing else does. I may buy this car in a couple of years depending on if they offer different packages and depending on how tunable it proves to be. I think it is a nice car and I really want to like it, but I was looking for a bat out of hell that would undoubtedly destroy my IX in every performance category, including aesthetics...that is not what I saw before it was released and that is not what I have seen thus far.
It lacks the raw/purposeful feel that the other past Evo models have had and just seems to be so much more corporate and soul-less. It is cool, but doesnt feel truly special...like the barely street-legal car that the IX was. I know it is somewhat of an iinevitability for something like this to happen to a beloved car like the VIII and IX, but there have been occasions where cars got both more civilized and hardcore at the same time: i.e. C5 vette to C6 vette. Hopefully, the next time I get into an Evo X, my opinion will evolve. But until that time, I guess you can keep calling me a "hater."
P.s. Thanks to those that appreciate what I was trying to convey
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I think your review was honest and descriptive. I have to agree with you on most of what you said. After seeing one in person at HB Mitsubishi my expectations of what it would look like were confirmed. Not at all striking imho as prior Evo's. The main problem I have with it is, it resembles the base Lancer. Which to me doesn't allow the X to set itself apart visually speaking.
No problems with the review here. We just have to accept that some people have their heads so far up some corporation's a$$, you'd think they were getting sponsored...which is exactly the opposite of what they're actually getting if you think about it.
I dig the Evo X, but it's definitely not all it could have been. Don't know that anyone could have afforded it if it had been though. I do plan to own one in a few years as more of a travel/night out/comfy ride than the VIII.
the guages and front dash is better than the evo 8 and 9 .... I admit a bit plain away from the driver, but I know from a Mitsu standpoint you need the evo to resemble more to the base GTS lancers and below to help sales...
You have to look at the EVO as the anchor ...
And as many people have said ... The 911 turbo doesn't look much different from a base carrera, a 335 vs the M3, c6 vs z06 or ZR1... Etc etc...
If Mitsu can't sell more evos to a larger crowd and more importantly can't sell the bread and butter cars on that reputation then there won't be a evo 11
You have to look at the EVO as the anchor ...
And as many people have said ... The 911 turbo doesn't look much different from a base carrera, a 335 vs the M3, c6 vs z06 or ZR1... Etc etc...
If Mitsu can't sell more evos to a larger crowd and more importantly can't sell the bread and butter cars on that reputation then there won't be a evo 11