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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Stock turbo limits

So after reading the reviews of the parts alredy made for the X and it hitting 330 with the stock FMIC from the boys from JNZ tuning. I'd like to hear some other guesses as to just how far the stock turbo could be pushed power wise. I'd love to see 400 with an FMIC and a solid tune! I know these cars are running pig rich and a tune would solve that problem and get a little better MPG!
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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So after reading the reviews of the parts alredy made for the X and it hitting 330 with the stock FMIC from the boys from JNZ tuning. I'd like to hear some other guesses as to just how far the stock turbo could be pushed power wise. I'd love to see 400 with an FMIC and a solid tune! I know these cars are running pig rich and a tune would solve that problem and get a little better MPG!
400whp on pump would be incredible actually and would point to the power of the engine and not the turbo since it flows less then the stock 8/9 turbos.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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We won't know until we get something to tune the car with.

But I will give you my guestimate anyway.....

I say it will approach 375/380whp on pump, and 400+whp on meth/race gas. I do believe this engine makes slightly more power at these levels than the 4G63....especially since the X turbo is smaller.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Ya, I think near 400 WHP. One of the shops were making low 400 HP with the Evo X, but they changed the turbo.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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If we ever get the VE for the motor, and get the whole thing flow tested, you will be able to estimate it.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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400 seems very doable
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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I say 370-380
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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400 would make for a hell of a DD! I'd love to see this!
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EVIL_EVO_VIII
I say 370-380

I'm in line with this to slightly higher.

There's still (educated guessing here) 40 or so whp in the ECU once we're able to get in there and remap it (10.0 AFRs are definitely not helping).

So between that and the gains people are seeing from an aftermarket IC, I think the slightly sub-to-400 range is not that out of the question.

We'll have the core here shortly and see where our particular car gains on the same dyno (independent dyno).

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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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The 8 and 9 turbos do not outflow the x turbo. Check next months turbo issue tomei does part2 of a write up on the turbos. And for those looking for something diff the jdm x rs turbo uses an inconel turbine wheel instead of Ti in the usdm turbo. And I think the specs are a tadddd different on the rs turbo.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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So the general thought would be that we could hit 400 on stock turbo without meth/alch..........?
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Originally Posted by uneedthis2
400 would make for a hell of a DD! I'd love to see this!
Weight will not make it as fast as you think. Basically 400whp would be like driving a 360whp 8/9.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmpurest
The 8 and 9 turbos do not outflow the x turbo. Check next months turbo issue tomei does part2 of a write up on the turbos. And for those looking for something diff the jdm x rs turbo uses an inconel turbine wheel instead of Ti in the usdm turbo. And I think the specs are a tadddd different on the rs turbo.
This would be interesting. Is this out on the shelves yet?

How does the cover of the mag look like?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Part one is like red I don't know what cars on it but like the covers all red. Part 2 is not out yet. The issue on news stands now has a mitsubishi tec write up on the x. It talks a lot about the changes made and how the focus was clean emmisions :-(. Particularly in the turbo articles I got that the x turbos is like a jdm9mr turbo. Basically the same thing. If I remeber correctly tho mitsu doesn't publish compressor maps, I don't know tho, any one know?

EDIT: sorry after reading my post I realixed it wasn't very clear. The turbo issue out now is red and has part one of two of a tech article writen on tomeis reverse engineering of the 4b11. Part 2 is next month. The current issue also has a tech writeup written with all of mitsubishis published tech info on the X. As we'll as the jdm X info like the RS. Hope that clears it up.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
Weight will not make it as fast as you think. Basically 400whp would be like driving a 360whp 8/9.
With better handling! I take back roads home...........
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