if you can only afford one car, you don't have enough! buy the X GSR and also the X MR

Manually shifting takes time and you can never equal the speed, precision, and consistency of a properly tuned computer and machine working as one no matter how good you are, that includes F1 and WRC drivers. Those drivers have gotten so good that a standard manual has become a limiting factor for increased speed.

Time is a distraction and distraction slows you down, no matter how minimal. A minimal fraction of time is the difference between losing or winning.

Once you have mastered a standard manual the next logical step to decrease your lap times would be something like SST, then the next logical step to decrease time even further is a super tuned full automatic transmission.

The main reason that full automatics are illegal in racing is that it will level the playing so much to the point that all drivers will be bumper to bumper, side to side almost constantly. Passing will be incredibly tough. Crashes will be way too common. To win in a tight race like that will require super human skills.

Exactly why regular manual is the way to go. Seperate the skilled and the average drivers. Thats what racing is. A level auto race wouldn't require super skills nearly as much as luck. Think like a restrctor-plate nascar race. Everyone is stacked nose to tail, door to door, legends and rookies, gifted and average drivers. All you gotta do is not get in the big crash and you might get lucky. Once you've got all you can get out of your regular manual, time to mod up or graduate to a faster car. I don't feel like anyone can really reach that "talent nirvana" in driving. Sure a car that doesn't require as much driver input will be faster. Completely agree, but does that really make you any faster?

I agree.

Yes, it does, because you will never reach that "talent nirvana" in driving, right? So, you will compensate by using better equipment.

The reverse gear on most 6 speeds require pulling or pushing the shift knob to deactivate the lockout. The seventh gear would be hard to locate, you would mis shift into 5th gear a lot when going for 7th. That's why you don't see any manual 7 speeds other than smgs.

I'd like

I own the GSR but all "HAIL THE MR"!

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

apparently you did not read the OP and where the thread was heading initially. who is dumb now

Thanks! That makes perfect sense. We should definitely push for having more options b/c it seems like in other countries, they have a vast array of them. That one guy from NZ has cloth in his MR.

i definitely understand what your saying about wanting a true six speed in the mr, the thing is they made the new auto transmission and the breaking point from people wanting a gsr and an mr. The technology in the mr tranny is so advanced and precise that many enthusiasts will prefer it over a conventional 5spd because it can shift so much faster and rev match like Schumacher. Unless you plan on going with a bigger turbo than stock, which most people dont, the mr tranny will hold all of the basic bolt ons.

How do you know? I think its gonna take a few years to determine this. I hope your right b/c it is a bad a** transmission.

It was just kinda odd that on the Best Motoring EVO IX Battle (02-2008) - the EVO IX w/ the SST came in dead last.. Might not be geared towards the track.

it's actually kinda nice that the EVO X MR's are pretty much the same as in Japan unlike the IX's US MR's with no SAYC.

Probably wants those forged BBS rims from the MR.