you are right, carrito ran 10.9 with a "modified stock turbo" The 11.9 w/ stock turbo was done by Frank @ xtremeboost down here in orlando

 

Um... yes it has. The turbo is a stock modified turbo. IE - stock with an upgraded wheel.

 

well if you are going to call the modified X turbos a stock turbo. then you have to call the green a stock turbo. they are both modified stock turbos. so considering the 4g63 has taken the green evos to mid 10's, that says that the 4g63 is better?

 

Is it just me or is this just about the dumbest thread ever?

 

Being that it's just a prototype for the X and the VIII has been around for oh 5 years and someone finally hit 10.5's on a green, you're going to make an asinine claim that the 4G63 is better? Wait five years to see what someone does with a X on a stock modified turbo. And guess what buddy? Someone already hit 10.9 in 3 months so things aren't looking good for ya. When will the hate of the 4B11 stop? Hell, there's even a X running a 35r now. What more needs to happen? And don't forget that even 4G63's couldn't handle more than 500 whp on the stock internals.

 

you'd be surprised at the level of ingenuity tuners have these days. I say it'll happen within a year. Someone's bound to drop 4b11 swap on a ix or viii like jackygor mentioned.

 

I wouldn't say it's "dumb" per say, but it does open up a can of possibilities and worms at the same time

 

Good thread if people would stop arguing about nothing.

Its not really the engine are really mad about its the added weight, but what did you expect for the addition of; climate control, cruise control, navigation, and other things I can't think of now.

And also because of the increase in mandatory safety parts in the car.

Just wait for people to start using their imagination instead of trying to do to it what they did to the IX and before and we might see some good power.

 

the way the 4B11T progressing right now, absolutely unnecessary to thinking about the swap.

 

oooook, read the whole thread, and then read my post. it was said earlier in the thread that the 4b11t was better because they are already going 10.9s on stock turbo. basically what i was saying was that its not a stock turbo, and if you are going to call it stock, then you must call the green a stock turbo. therefore, if they are both stock turbos and running 10's, does that make the 4g63 a better engine since it takes a stock turbo to lower et's than the 4b11t. i didnt claim that the 4g63 is better, i simply asked if it was better?

relax, we still consider your X an evo, and we will still wave to you on the street.

 

If the X has a 4G63, I'd buy it, only cuz I can swap all my parts out!

 

4G63 in the new STi would be sick, they look much better then the X so id be all over that.

 

What do you mean "prototype"? The Lancer Evolution ten is a production car.

You are making references between the Evolution VIII and the Evolution X like the VIII was the first car to have a 4G63 engine. I'm really not familiar with quarter mile time records and milestones set in the CT9A chassis here or overseas, but I'm positive that the 4G63 has turned 10 second timeslips in other production chassis before the Evo was here, and before there were turbos like the FP Green.

The 4G63 engine has made more than 500hp on stock internals by many people, in both the Evolution, Galant, and DSM chassis.

Regardless, the swap would be pointless. It would be extremely difficult, expensive, and though I would like the idea of seeing how the old engine would fair in the new car, but I just don't see how it would be worthwhile. While I don't believe the 4B11 is a superior engine, it's good enough not to warrant such an expensive and time consuming swap.

 

The first quote will really mislead people, this kinda things happens all the time. I dont see why u would called a modified turbo a stock turbo if u knew it was modified. On top of that the 1 and only 10 second run is highly disputed(people should just read the thread and get thier own facts/take on things)

Regardless IMO i think no one will invest the time/money in doing the 4g63 into an evo X. Would it be interesting, sure. Maybe if the 4b11doesnt live up to producing high horsepower reliably, then im sure someone will wind up doing the swap.

 

If the engine bay can confortably accomodate a rotated engine setup, I think it could be a really cool swap. I just don't think everything will line up, like where the transmission mounts to the engine and the fact its plumbed totally different.

For the price it would take to do it, you could probably build a time attack car instead out of whichever chassis you like the best and be done with it.

At least its a logical swap and not bastardization. When someone put the LS1 in the Evo IX, that was really dumb IMO. The chassis isn't sorted to be big power RWD.

At the end of the day, though, the 4B11 is lighter than the 4G63. It doesn't make sense to use an X for drag racing when you can use a much lighter VIII or IX and the 4G63 came in there from the factory.