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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:19 AM
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Well they are 13.6 @ 101 stock with the 2nd reflash. Are they slow stock? Yes... but I wouldn't say "retardedly slow" since stock evo 8/9's were only around ~4 tenths and ~4 mph quicker in the quarter mile. Not everyone can match the magazine times drag racing the first time and the stock clutch turns to powder when you try to apply too much power when it's not fully engaged. You can expect low to mid 12's at 108-112 with basic stage 3 bolt ons and even the OP's boyfriend came close to that on the trap speeds, likely just needed a better clutch off the line.
the EVO X should be faster than that. magazine drivers (which suck ***) have gotten as low as 13.4 BONE stock. with stage 3 bolt ons (don't know what that is, but it sounds like a lot) and a good driver, you should be hitting 11's. the X's make ridiculous power on simple mods, so it's not the cars...it's the drivers. if you can pick up 100whp from an exhaust and a tune, and the cars already running low 13's, an extra 100whp should be enough to get you a good ways into the 12's easily. now when you start modding even more than that, adding an intake, piping, intercooler, boost controller, etc, you should be in the 11's with no problems if you can drive. there was a guy on this board that made it to 11's in an EVO IX RS with less than $900 in mods. granted, the IX RS is a lot lighter than the X, but it doesn't make power as easily as the X either. all the extra power that thing can make will start offsetting the weight difference.

people just need to learn to drive these things. it's kinda tricky, i'll admit. my first time at the track the best i could do was a 13.6. it was because I wasn't driving it right. I practiced a couple times, went back, and with no mods other than my driving style i hit 13.0. then the next time i went my first run was a 12.9, then 12.82. so i went from 13.6 to 12.8 with the exact same car. it's not the cars, it's the drivers.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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the EVO X should be faster than that. magazine drivers (which suck ***) have gotten as low as 13.4 BONE stock. with stage 3 bolt ons (don't know what that is, but it sounds like a lot) and a good driver, you should be hitting 11's. the X's make ridiculous power on simple mods, so it's not the cars...it's the drivers. if you can pick up 100whp from an exhaust and a tune, and the cars already running low 13's, an extra 100whp should be enough to get you a good ways into the 12's easily. now when you start modding even more than that, adding an intake, piping, intercooler, boost controller, etc, you should be in the 11's with no problems if you can drive. there was a guy on this board that made it to 11's in an EVO IX RS with less than $900 in mods. granted, the IX RS is a lot lighter than the X, but it doesn't make power as easily as the X either. all the extra power that thing can make will start offsetting the weight difference.

people just need to learn to drive these things. it's kinda tricky, i'll admit. my first time at the track the best i could do was a 13.6. it was because I wasn't driving it right. I practiced a couple times, went back, and with no mods other than my driving style i hit 13.0. then the next time i went my first run was a 12.9, then 12.82. so i went from 13.6 to 12.8 with the exact same car. it's not the cars, it's the drivers.
so youre saying that you ran a 12.9 and a 12.8 in a bone stock X?.... I felt my car stock and I don't see that being exactly possible... It was pretty torquie on the low end but then it lost its ***** up top..... just my op..... if thats what you ran, then what was your 60'? and your trap?.....
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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At Maple Grove Speedway last friday i ran my GSR

Best run was my second one and this was only the second launch that i have ever done on a track. Here are my stats

R/T .394
60 ft 1.883
1/8 8.098 @ 86.02 mph
1000ft 10.536
1/4 12.582 @ 109.93 mph

I was up against a shelby GT, his 1/4 was 12.736 hehe

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hova00
Anyone running 14's in an EVO should just sell it.
The same could be said about anyone using an AWD rally car for drag racing. Not for nothing but why do you guys think these cars are so "tricky" to launch? Perhaps it is because they aren't designed to be launched.

I never did quite understand why people purchase these amazing vehicles and only use about 15% of the car's capabilities. If drag racing was my thing, an Evo would not be top of my shopping list. But everyone is free to spend their money as they choose.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Just to show a recent post from a member in their IX:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=365663

13.2 @ 103 with mods, so I see numbers from stock and near stock cars all over the board.

I'm ordering my clutch in the next few minutes and see what the car can do in about 2 weeks. I understand that the driver is the biggest gain you can make optimizing launches but if the clutch turns to molten slag off the stutter there isn't much you can do about getting better short times or becoming a better driver. Sure you can baby it and try to find that perfect balance of launch and clutch melt but to me the 2 step is the best way to get consistant launches and in theory it should have the least chance to slip the clutch excessively provided it can hold the power.

Another thing to consider is that even once I get my clutch in, the 4th gear winding out past redline may not be the optimal powerband on the stock turbo as I cross the traps. I'm quite sure that my old Evo 8 with low to mid 12's @ 112 power (also having clutch issues) wouldn't pull as hard on the highway from 80-120 as my X does now in 5th gear. I'm wondering if the BVP Evo X is shifting to 5th to reach the 120 mph trap speeds or if they are riding out 4th with a modified redline and slightly larger diameter tires.

I'll agree that the road course is where the money is at with an Evo X, I intend to find out in September how fun it will be at Watkins Glen.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiboost
Just to show a recent post from a member in their IX:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=365663

13.2 @ 103 with mods, so I see numbers from stock and near stock cars all over the board.

I'm ordering my clutch in the next few minutes and see what the car can do in about 2 weeks. I understand that the driver is the biggest gain you can make optimizing launches but if the clutch turns to molten slag off the stutter there isn't much you can do about getting better short times or becoming a better driver. Sure you can baby it and try to find that perfect balance of launch and clutch melt but to me the 2 step is the best way to get consistant launches and in theory it should have the least chance to slip the clutch excessively provided it can hold the power.

Another thing to consider is that even once I get my clutch in, the 4th gear winding out past redline may not be the optimal powerband on the stock turbo as I cross the traps. I'm quite sure that my old Evo 8 with low to mid 12's @ 112 power (also having clutch issues) wouldn't pull as hard on the highway from 80-120 as my X does now in 5th gear. I'm wondering if the BVP Evo X is shifting to 5th to reach the 120 mph trap speeds or if they are riding out 4th with a modified redline and slightly larger diameter tires.

I'll agree that the road course is where the money is at with an Evo X, I intend to find out in September how fun it will be at Watkins Glen.

Act HDSS is a good choice for clutches, feel close to stock and i can laucnh hard all day and night. With a tune i think the X gets better times past redline then right at it or b4 it, but thats my opinion. Im only new to tracking
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Yeah, the stock clutch and the clutch pill are killing the X's time. The stock clutch turns to butter with any mods and a hard launch.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rguy
Yeah, the stock clutch and the clutch pill are killing the X's time. The stock clutch turns to butter with any mods and a hard launch.

+1 mine blew out after 1 launch at 110 whp over stock, those of you with mods dont launch unless u got the money to shell out for a new clutch
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by **SEXYRACER**
so youre saying that you ran a 12.9 and a 12.8 in a bone stock X?.... I felt my car stock and I don't see that being exactly possible... It was pretty torquie on the low end but then it lost its ***** up top..... just my op..... if thats what you ran, then what was your 60'? and your trap?.....
lol no, EVO IX. like the other guy with the IX said. he broke 12's in his car stock as well. i was just relating that to my experience with the IX. i was also saying that the X has been shown to run as low as 13.4 stock, and it seems that once you start modding them, 12's should be no problem. intake, tune, and boost controller is getting 100whp extra in some cases. i would think that kind of power bump would be more than enough to get that car into the 12's. it just seems like people need to get used to driving these things before we'll start to see what the car can really do. there's no way these cars should be running high 13's and low 14's stock, and with the mods some people are posting up, it seems like they should be running much quicker times.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hiboost
Just to show a recent post from a member in their IX:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=365663

13.2 @ 103 with mods, so I see numbers from stock and near stock cars all over the board.

I'm ordering my clutch in the next few minutes and see what the car can do in about 2 weeks. I understand that the driver is the biggest gain you can make optimizing launches but if the clutch turns to molten slag off the stutter there isn't much you can do about getting better short times or becoming a better driver. Sure you can baby it and try to find that perfect balance of launch and clutch melt but to me the 2 step is the best way to get consistant launches and in theory it should have the least chance to slip the clutch excessively provided it can hold the power.

Another thing to consider is that even once I get my clutch in, the 4th gear winding out past redline may not be the optimal powerband on the stock turbo as I cross the traps. I'm quite sure that my old Evo 8 with low to mid 12's @ 112 power (also having clutch issues) wouldn't pull as hard on the highway from 80-120 as my X does now in 5th gear. I'm wondering if the BVP Evo X is shifting to 5th to reach the 120 mph trap speeds or if they are riding out 4th with a modified redline and slightly larger diameter tires.

I'll agree that the road course is where the money is at with an Evo X, I intend to find out in September how fun it will be at Watkins Glen.

that's slower than what i ran in mine bone stock. he's got good launches, but it looks like the driving falls off after the launch. the 1/8th mile time and mph are off. his trap is really low too.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Why are we even talking about the IX's? We all know they are quicker in the 1/4 stock for stock. The X is can run 12's stock, its just the clutch cant hold. Maybe 1 or 2 runs but thats it. Once its heated up its done with.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by just a neon
Why are we even talking about the IX's? We all know they are quicker in the 1/4 stock for stock. The X is can run 12's stock, its just the clutch cant hold. Maybe 1 or 2 runs but thats it. Once its heated up its done with.
i don't know about 12's stock, but i'll believe they should be running faster than the times in this thread. as for that clutch issue, i doubt that. they've said the same thing about every EVO since 03, and i've never met an EVO owner that knew how to drive that had a problem with their clutches.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Trust me if you try and launch a X with a heated up clutch it will not hold. I tried on Friday. If the clutch had not been heated up im positive I could have gotten a 1.8 60ft.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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if ur breaking ur clutch i think thats driver error =/

Im pretty surprised at most of these times. I thought with the power to mod ratio the x had it would be pretty easy to get mid 12 range.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by def1
if ur breaking ur clutch i think thats driver error =/

Im pretty surprised at most of these times. I thought with the power to mod ratio the x had it would be pretty easy to get mid 12 range.
that's exactly what i'm sayin
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