there are definitely more that that

michaud has 4
cornerstone has 4
walpole has 5
westboro not sure
grava not sure

 

it not gonna change much, cosmetic maybe, perhaps 6 speed

 

That's the dumbest **** I've ever heard of in my life.

You're going to delay your purchase of an Evo X because it "might" change in 2010 ? Do you not buy cell phones based on the fact that it will probably be obsolete in a year ?

This happens all the time in almost every market. You can get an extraordinary deal on an 08, but yet, you are pissed because it MAY change in 2010 when they start manufacturing more ? Dumb dumb dumb dumb. Might as well not even buy one, they'll probably change it in 2012.

 

The market for EVO's aren't as big when it first landed in 2003. Now with the new models being a bit pricier people aren't buying as they should.

I think its smart for them to hold back on Evo's and let the economy build back up. Right now in the automobile industry, gas efficient cars or more in demand, I hate to say it.

Don't get me wrong, STI's aren't making much sales either but they have a stronger capital especially with Toyota owning a percentage of there market.

 

If this is indeed true, I appreciate Mitsubishi doing something to maintain the resale value of our cars.

 

It isn't fair to compare the two cases. There was no '07 Evo in the US due to a change in Federally mandated safety standards. Mitsubishi, however, imported an unusually high number of Evos that lasted through '07. There was a total of over 8,000 IXs sold over a two year period, which is right in line with historic Evo sales of ~4,000+ a year. If Mitsubishi decided to forgo a '09, it's due to no other factor than slow sales of '08s, unlike what happened with MY07.

 

agreed, my point was that it isn't uncommon for us to have to wait.

 

I did a search on Cars.com for New Evolutions throughout the whole US. Came up with this:

Search Local Inventory

There are 1115 matching vehicles within 10000 miles of your ZIP,XXXXX

 

I agree that Sam is the man, and I totally believe him. But I don't think it will help value on 08s...

...And here's why. There are a ton left on lots. This car has had a serious uphill battle from the word "go". Its sad too. I think the main problems generating sales are:

1) +300 pound curb weight over outgoing model.
2) Replacement of a venerable engine with one that is not quite as robust.
3) Price of gas was asinine until the past couple of months
4) Horror stories of crunchy transmissions, bad factory mapping, fuel in oil, yada yada yada.
5) Used car value, trade in, etc. I got a lot more for my IX. Buyers just aren't interested in used Xs, and especially now that you can get a new one at 0%. This hurts short term resale. Hopefully long term resale will get up to where the IX is per capita.

I miss some things about my X a lot. Other things I don't. Gosh, I miss the SAYC and the seats like mad, though.

 

Slow sales may be due to the X's characteristics and price, but don't forget the finance market. Even if you wanted to get the X many many people can't get approved for a loan, even with a good credit score. My wife worked as a bank manager (up til a few months ago) and they were turning away buyers with 700 credit scores and with cash for half the vehicle up front. This is with a well known nation wide bank.

 

The main problem is the economy and the fact that nobody is buying cars. Most people aren't reading the Internet forum banter about the car.

 

I agree the economy is the front and center problem, but you'd be suprised how many are reading it. Its such a niche car, and a lot of people are either previous Evo owners or lurkers. After the economy, the weight is such a buzzkill on an awesome car.

 

Subaru had to give away the farm ($7000 discount combined with 0%) to move 08 STI's. It's not an EVO thing but an industry thing.

I look at it this way. Subaru upped the power of the WRX to STI levels without upgrading the 09 STI because they are making major changes for 2010. Mistubishi will be doing the same thing. Why make 2009 EVO X's which will have the same specs to 08's sit on lots unsold? This way near the end of 09 the 08's should be almost depleated and they can roll out the improved 2010 model without having to worry about liquidating a bunch of 09's. I'm thinking a direct injection 411B making 330 hp, interior tweeks, and possibly a 6 speed manual.

 

I would have to disagree with all these reasons except the gas prices.

1.) The car may be heavier but it also has a lot more features and options along with being a huge increase in safety which has proven to attract a larger range of buyers. I think the additions have attracted more buyers than the extra weigth has pushed others away.

2.) The 4B11T is just as robust if not more than the 4G63. The 4G63 is an amazing engine but it is also a very old design. Advancements in engine design and research have allowed Engineers to build stonger engines that weigh less. The 4B11 is nothing short of an improvement.

3.) Gas prices have and will continue to hurt the sales of performance vehicles.

4.) Given that this is a brand new design, the reported issues have actually been very few and nothing too serious. Also, issues will get blown up in forums where you will never hear about the people who have no issues.

5.) Most people do not buy a new car with plans of selling it within a year. Resale values are low because of how poor our economy is in, and because of how desperate dealers are getting to sell cars (offering cars for below invoice and with 0% financing). Once the economy rebounds, you will see the car values go back up.

The economy is the soul driver of the poor sales of the Evos and has nothing to do with the design or performance. It has already been prooven as a very stong contender in its market. People losing jobs, have the fear of losing jobs, and the state of the credit market are causing people to be more cautious and they are not going out to buy new cars.

Disclaimer: This is all my own opinion.

 

If you read the thread link
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/hu...2009-evos.html You will see that the 2010 model will be taking orders in July 2009 and it will be released september or october 2009 as a 2010 model. So actually its not dumb because its not that long of a wait and i do think the 2010 model will go through some major changes, glitches will be fixed etc. So think about it buying an 08 model right now its kind of pointless if its coming out in september-october 2009 as a 2010 model and its probably going to have major changes if not why woulden't they sell them for 2009?? In my personal opinion i think its better to wait because there is something better coming.