Evo X vs Chevrolet Cobalt SS turbocharged
that is right , if you debating between the X and the cobalt , probably you have no clue about the Evo. So you better off with the DSM.
But i think the Aftermarket support has to be good for the SS. And cheap too. So i think we will see many real fast and quick SS in the near future.
Which is great.
DSM need a resurrection.
But i think the Aftermarket support has to be good for the SS. And cheap too. So i think we will see many real fast and quick SS in the near future.
Which is great.
DSM need a resurrection.
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Let's put 100 more HP at the wheels and see those number grow farther. FWD FTL, dont forget it. There's a reason why a AWD is more expensive, there's a reason why the GTR is AWD and not RWD.
Once you start to make some real power, divided by the four wheels in the ground will be a heck of alot more beneficial than 2.
On a side note, i did look at the cobalts, and the reason i didn't buy it was FWD and is a Chevy
and i remember reading their engines(old SS) blowing up as soon as they went over 300 hp. Im sure the new engine is better.
Once you start to make some real power, divided by the four wheels in the ground will be a heck of alot more beneficial than 2.
On a side note, i did look at the cobalts, and the reason i didn't buy it was FWD and is a Chevy
and i remember reading their engines(old SS) blowing up as soon as they went over 300 hp. Im sure the new engine is better.I understand that overpowering the front wheels isn't the best thing, but I'm sure some of that can be helped with upgraded suspension. You think a stock suspension/wheel EVO is gonna handle just as well with another 100-150whp added to it? Doubt it.
I think the Cobalt is a great car for the price, just like the SRT4 was. Only a small handfull of people actually buy thier cars to actually road race and be competative with them. Others will do it for fun.
I don't see a problem with it being a Chevy hoenstly. The only poeple that have a problem with it being a Chevy is the JDM fanboys. Thier quality is just as good as Toyota and Honda and build some of the fastest cars you can buy for the money and they are proving it with the Cobalt, Z06, and the ZR1.
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Ya ... US car manufacturers have just as good quality as brands from Japan and Europe ... 
Is that why they're all on the verge of failing? Because of their equal quality cars?
Will an evo with 100 more whp handle the track fine on stock suspension/wheels? Ya they do ... hahaha its called SAWC, Yokohama Advans, etc ...
and I would bet that most would not deny that the Evo X would handle that power boost much better than the SS/TC would.
and as for DSM ... maybe he meant USDM? lol.
Is that why they're all on the verge of failing? Because of their equal quality cars?
Will an evo with 100 more whp handle the track fine on stock suspension/wheels? Ya they do ... hahaha its called SAWC, Yokohama Advans, etc ...
and I would bet that most would not deny that the Evo X would handle that power boost much better than the SS/TC would.
and as for DSM ... maybe he meant USDM? lol.
Ya ... US car manufacturers have just as good quality as brands from Japan and Europe ...
Is that why they're all on the verge of failing? Because of their equal quality cars?
Will an evo with 100 more whp handle the track fine on stock suspension/wheels? Ya they do ... hahaha its called SAWC, Yokohama Advans, etc ...
and I would bet that most would not deny that the Evo X would handle that power boost much better than the SS/TC would.
and as for DSM ... maybe he meant USDM? lol.
Is that why they're all on the verge of failing? Because of their equal quality cars?
Will an evo with 100 more whp handle the track fine on stock suspension/wheels? Ya they do ... hahaha its called SAWC, Yokohama Advans, etc ...
and I would bet that most would not deny that the Evo X would handle that power boost much better than the SS/TC would.
and as for DSM ... maybe he meant USDM? lol.
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Ya ... US car manufacturers have just as good quality as brands from Japan and Europe ...
Is that why they're all on the verge of failing? Because of their equal quality cars?
Will an evo with 100 more whp handle the track fine on stock suspension/wheels? Ya they do ... hahaha its called SAWC, Yokohama Advans, etc ...
and I would bet that most would not deny that the Evo X would handle that power boost much better than the SS/TC would.
and as for DSM ... maybe he meant USDM? lol.
Is that why they're all on the verge of failing? Because of their equal quality cars?
Will an evo with 100 more whp handle the track fine on stock suspension/wheels? Ya they do ... hahaha its called SAWC, Yokohama Advans, etc ...
and I would bet that most would not deny that the Evo X would handle that power boost much better than the SS/TC would.
and as for DSM ... maybe he meant USDM? lol.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/de...t/?partner=RSS
One of the reasons why they are on the verge of failing is due to the fact that the media goes out of thier way to fill peoples heads like you full of this misinformation. Look around man, EVERY car manufacturer is taking a lose. Toyota just reported its first lose in 70 years. Its not just the US automakers that are hurting and getting bailed out by thier goverment.
To get back on topic, I don't think any EVO with 100-150whp more than stock on stock suspension will handle like it would stock. Kinda hard to see thoughbeing everyone upgrades thier suspension when making that kind of power.....hmmm, might be a hint.
^+1. Making a comment indicating or implying that quality is the resaon for the imminent downfall of the Big Three is ignorant and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about basic business and economic models.
That being said, the new Cobalt SS is definitely a better value than the X depending on what each potential buyer is most interested in. As stated, most people on this forum will not track their car, but they will use it as an excuse to own/defend an AWD vehicle. If you wish to have a little more prestige than a cobalt/SRT4 then an Evo or STi is a good upgrade that allows you several modification options. If you want good gas mileage, great overall speed and handling at a low price, with modification opportunity for the future, then the new Cobalt is a better deal for you. Less weight, incredible engine, and an upgraded suspension that performs better than anyone expected.
That being said, the new Cobalt SS is definitely a better value than the X depending on what each potential buyer is most interested in. As stated, most people on this forum will not track their car, but they will use it as an excuse to own/defend an AWD vehicle. If you wish to have a little more prestige than a cobalt/SRT4 then an Evo or STi is a good upgrade that allows you several modification options. If you want good gas mileage, great overall speed and handling at a low price, with modification opportunity for the future, then the new Cobalt is a better deal for you. Less weight, incredible engine, and an upgraded suspension that performs better than anyone expected.
Wasn't there a time attack in which Heinrecy kicked everyones **** in a turbo SS? The fact is the Cobalt SS is a great little, albiet ulty-to-some, car. I think that a midly prepped Cobalt against a similarly prepped Evo would give our beloved cars a heck of a run on a track. The car deserves some respect. There is no doubt that the X is a track star but we should not poo-poo a budget rocket like the Cobalt. I'd personally love to see GM come out in full force and support Grassroots motorsports and get back into the game to revive their dying brands.
Edmunds inside line had a cool quote when it was testing the 08 SS/TC:
"While fine-tuning the 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS, GMPD chassis engineers kept a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII (supposed to be IX) around the garage. They describe that car as 'always being on full kill.' The plan was to make this Cobalt 'one notch down from full kill."
It should not surprise many that the cobalt can compete with the Evo in a variety of motorsports. How does the old saying go - imitation is the highest form of flattery.
"While fine-tuning the 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS, GMPD chassis engineers kept a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII (supposed to be IX) around the garage. They describe that car as 'always being on full kill.' The plan was to make this Cobalt 'one notch down from full kill."
It should not surprise many that the cobalt can compete with the Evo in a variety of motorsports. How does the old saying go - imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Wasn't there a time attack in which Heinrecy kicked everyones **** in a turbo SS? The fact is the Cobalt SS is a great little, albiet ulty-to-some, car. I think that a midly prepped Cobalt against a similarly prepped Evo would give our beloved cars a heck of a run on a track. The car deserves some respect. There is no doubt that the X is a track star but we should not poo-poo a budget rocket like the Cobalt. I'd personally love to see GM come out in full force and support Grassroots motorsports and get back into the game to revive their dying brands.
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^^I think the cobalt is a huge bang for the buck. The only issue is it just looks like an econo car. If it looked good at all I can see more people buying them with this performance. I also think it is funny that any Evo owners here would make fun of the budget interior. I have a GSR and have seen inside an MR at the dealership, and they are both laughable at quality interior. The MR leather is an absolute joke (It looks like Pleather IMO, and the GSR cloth has to be some of the cheapest Ive ever seen. I love my Evo, but it has lots of deficiencies. Most of which I will address very soon. I say more power to the SS. Competition is good for the EVO. It will make engineers have to push to make a better car. We all win.
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^^I think the cobalt is a huge bang for the buck. The only issue is it just looks like an econo car. If it looked good at all I can see more people buying them with this performance. I also think it is funny that any Evo owners here would make fun of the budget interior. I have a GSR and have seen inside an MR at the dealership, and they are both laughable at quality interior. The MR leather is an absolute joke (It looks like Pleather IMO, and the GSR cloth has to be some of the cheapest Ive ever seen. I love my Evo, but it has lots of deficiencies. Most of which I will address very soon. I say more power to the SS. Competition is good for the EVO. It will make engineers have to push to make a better car. We all win.
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here is a video that might helphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnVK6WOTVmI
here is another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FJd7...eature=related
here is another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FJd7...eature=related
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