Is it a bad idea to Redline the Evo X Constantly?
Feb 26, 2009, 08:05 PM
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IMO there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with going to the redline once a day. I mean this is an EVO right? Its not a Ford Taurus or even a Honda civic. Its silly to buy a 300+ horsepower car to drive it like my mother drives. Here is a great tip that applies to everything you ones life......
MODERATION is the key to everything! Drugs, alcohol, reving your engine. Moderate baby.
MODERATION is the key to everything! Drugs, alcohol, reving your engine. Moderate baby.
Feb 26, 2009, 08:08 PM
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IMO there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with going to the redline once a day. I mean this is an EVO right? Its not a Ford Taurus or even a Honda civic. Its silly to buy a 300+ horsepower car to drive it like my mother drives. Here is a great tip that applies to everything you ones life......
MODERATION is the key to everything! Drugs, alcohol, reving your engine. Moderate baby.
MODERATION is the key to everything! Drugs, alcohol, reving your engine. Moderate baby.
Feb 26, 2009, 08:20 PM
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Sometimes I'm nice sometimes I beat the thing into submission. My car has alot of track time( Its driven very very hard at the track with the expectation of breaking) and also has 26k on it. This is my first small motor car and I'm very impressed at how well its held up! But you play hard and eventually you will pay hard oh well!
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Feb 26, 2009, 08:28 PM
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There is a reason that some racing drivers never break down and some do all the time. One difference is you learn to not stress the machine unless you need to. You still drive fast but at the same time conserve the car. Alain Prost won 4 world championshipsthis way. If it is good for racing drivers who need to go as fast as possible in cars that are DEFINATELY made to rev high and be driven hard and only need to last 200miles, why should it be different for a road car most expect to last 100,000? First thing you start doing when you have a big lead is reduce the revs.
The high RPMS fatique the rods, wear the bearings at accelerated rates, and degrade the oil among other things. Every once in a while, fine. Doing a track event? Sure....if needed to in top gear down the straights, in a draft for a pass, or if you need to stretch a gear mid corner. Doing it just going to work in the morning seems silly.
The high RPMS fatique the rods, wear the bearings at accelerated rates, and degrade the oil among other things. Every once in a while, fine. Doing a track event? Sure....if needed to in top gear down the straights, in a draft for a pass, or if you need to stretch a gear mid corner. Doing it just going to work in the morning seems silly.
Who holds engines at redline, we're talking about shifting at redline? There are way too many granny drivers here. The 4b11 engine wasn't designed to be babied. I run my 15 year old 3SGTE engine to redline all the time and it's never caused an issue. Same with my DSM's with 1st and 2nd gen 4G63's. These engines are stronger than you think. However bouncing off the rev limiter continuously isn't a good idea as you can get into some less than desirable lean conditions due to abrupt fuel cut.
I drive my car only 4 to 6 times a month. My job is so close that I walk there everyday. Redline daily? Yes, indeed. Well, maybe not with the Evo. But when I do get the chance to drive my car I definitely drive it like I own it. And in the end it is a performance car after all.
Feb 26, 2009, 08:57 PM
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I can say I agree with most of what you said, except for the last sentence. Considering I dont drive in any professional series, driving to work or doing any other daily things is the only time I have to drive my car. I dont feel its silly at all. I actually believe its more silly for me to drive my car like it was a Nissan Versa, instead of what it is. Just wanted to ask a question.
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Feb 26, 2009, 09:11 PM
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I also came from a honda's B series engine which have different engine characteristic than the 4B11 or 4G63. honda's torque and power lies on the higher end of the powerband as for the mitsu, they are peaking at the mid of the power band. In Hondas, that pitchy sweet tune of the VTEC makes the driver feels he's driving fast but in reality there is no torque unless you hit the VTEC range upto the redline.
As for your question, Yes you can drive it everytime at redline provided that you know how to maintain your car. Race cars, need to be checked everytime they track or sometimes need to rebuild the engine. Since most of the Evo owners doesn't keep it longer most of the time (i.e. 5yrs), those wear and tear of engine internals are not felt in that duration.
but think of this, do you really need that torque and power in daily driving? It will just lead you to more tickets i guess.....
As for your question, Yes you can drive it everytime at redline provided that you know how to maintain your car. Race cars, need to be checked everytime they track or sometimes need to rebuild the engine. Since most of the Evo owners doesn't keep it longer most of the time (i.e. 5yrs), those wear and tear of engine internals are not felt in that duration.
but think of this, do you really need that torque and power in daily driving? It will just lead you to more tickets i guess.....
Feb 26, 2009, 09:14 PM
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If you don't redline it regularly,it's going to break.lol.Its ok to do it ,just not all the time.I like doing it when I get on the freeway.I redline it all the way to like 90mph and then slow down so I don't get a ticket.Insurance already sucks with my driving record.
Feb 26, 2009, 09:15 PM
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If you don't redline it regularly,it's going to break.lol.Its ok to do it ,just not all the time.I like doing it when I get on the freeway.I redline it all the way to like 90mph and then slow down so I don't get a ticket.Insurance already sucks with my driving record.
Damn those freakin' CHPs!!!!!
Feb 26, 2009, 09:57 PM
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give me a break. Dont post if you dont know what your talking about.hope your right....
Feb 26, 2009, 10:20 PM
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yeah i dont redline all the time...if i get on it its occasionally and i shift it at 6500...i hardly go to red line unless im smoking the crap out of the guy next to me at the stop light lol.....most of the time i keep my cobb ap in economy mode anyway...
Feb 27, 2009, 03:14 AM
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In the K20 engine, you had to rev the hell out it to get to the power band; you achieve same in the X well below redline. In short, there is no point in doing this for DD.
Later, Ken
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Feb 27, 2009, 05:03 AM
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Well I was driving home today and I was driving the car just a tad harder then usual. Since the X is torquey you really dont need to push it hard to get where your going, but Im used to redlining my cars. As I drove the X to around 7k RPMs in each gear I felt like a strange pulsing or vibration. The power wasnt being cut off, though. It kept pulling all the way to 7k RPM, just with the strange feeling as a had my foot on the gas pedal.
Which brings me to my question. Is it a bad idea to constantly redline to 4B11 in the X? I know its a new engine and all, but I know there are a lot of X owners out there who have had their car a lot longer then I have. Im going on my 3rd month. Please understand that Im coming from 3 K20 powered Hondas, which I constantly redline past 8k RPMs on a daily basis, and did not have one single problem with any of the 3. For some reason I feel like I cant treat the X the same way. Maybe Im wrong. I hope Im wrong. What do you guys have to say?
Which brings me to my question. Is it a bad idea to constantly redline to 4B11 in the X? I know its a new engine and all, but I know there are a lot of X owners out there who have had their car a lot longer then I have. Im going on my 3rd month. Please understand that Im coming from 3 K20 powered Hondas, which I constantly redline past 8k RPMs on a daily basis, and did not have one single problem with any of the 3. For some reason I feel like I cant treat the X the same way. Maybe Im wrong. I hope Im wrong. What do you guys have to say?
Feb 27, 2009, 05:19 AM
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Anyone that has ever been around professional racing will tell you that in any circuit racing of any substantial length, you start saving rpms if you can. Shift a little early etc.and racecar engines are rebuilt between every event.