Sure, there are dynos that show a slight increase with a CAI but we're not talking about massive ponies here.

To the OP, you've done a great job researching all of this but you're getting a little OCD about this--kinda like me, you probably enjoy the research more than the actual purchase and install themselves.

At the end of the day, an intake/turboback are some of the most basic mods you and other gearheads have done for decades now. You really cannot go wrong in choosing a brand name product whilst getting a proper tune so your car matches to the mods and maximizes its output.

People buy shoes everyday. You should just pick a pair and move on to the next 100mods that are sure to come around the corner.

 

I do have that problem.

 

I am still torn on the intake, but for the exhaust I am leaning towards the Perrin catback with the AMS downpipe and hfc. Anybody else running this combo?

For the intake, I just really wish there was an AP map the ETS intake. I hear so much good stuff about it, but I am having a hard time pulling the trigger without an AP map. I'm sure I am not the only one which is why I am really surprised that ETS doesn't want to work with Cobb to make one (or make their own).

 

I would like to see a Dyno sheet that shows an intake (cold air, non-cold air or even just a drop in) makes more power on a tuned car.

People start by adding an intake, they immediately see an increase in power, then they tune the car and then they believe the combination of the two added power.

Prove it.

 

I've got the AEM CAI and CP-E TBE and love them both. I ran a 13.2 1/4 mile with just those 2 mods and no tune. Took it to get tuned and baseline was 258 whp...313 whp tuned on a Mustang dyno.

 

Subscribed... I'm looking for an exhaust as well but leaning toward the ETS for sound and performance. Great feedback on all the exhausts and intakes though

 

Nobody is running the Perrin with the AMS downpipe and/or hfc?

 

A lot of people really seem to like ETS. My problem with the exhaust is that some people say that it drones, although ETS did tell me that they could add a resonator to prevent that. I also like how tucked it is, although I wonder if that increases the heat on the underside of the car. In terms of sound, it is probably my 2nd choice behind the Perrin. For the intake, I just don't know if I can get over the lack of Cobb AccessPort map and being forced to pay additional money for a tune.

 

Anybody running the Perrin with a non Perrin downpipe/hfc?

 

I ended up with the AFE Stage 2 intake with dry filter and an Ultimate Racing catback (very similar to ETS') with midpipe mini-muffler option. I'll probably be ordering the Megan testpipe and leave the stock o2 housing and downpipe for now. I haven't installed them yet; I did install a Perrin turbo inlet hose already though.

 

Nobody?

On another note, I have a question for the people out there with the ETS intake and/or know about the Cobb AP. One of the things I have been hung up on over the ETS intake is the lack of AP map. If the MAF is the same, why does it need a map? People on here mention using the Cobb intake map since that is supposedly close, but why? What does the map do other than scale the MAF? Why does the Injen need one?

 

dont base your decision off the fact that cobb does not make a map for it.

Id suggest you sell the Cobb and return stock. Run any openfilter intake for the "sound" like AMS, ETS, HKS... and they will ALL perform the same (you personally would never notice any difference)

Then Pur your research skills to use and learn how to basic tune with ecuflash and make your own map to run with your intake.

then as far as exhaust, if you dont want it to loud, and dont want drone, and dont want to fail smog test.... Then you should not truly be worried about peak power.

Go to youtube and listen to some exhaust notes. they will mostly all be louder then your car becuse youll still have your catalytic converter installed.


From what your asking for, and what you want to work with, id suggest getting the HKS axelback system. and while your at it, you might as well get the HKS intake to match and just do a basic street tune. You will be happy with the performance and sound you get from to combination. I wont be 100whp but with a good tune, you could probably pick up around 50whp throught the powerband.

if your going to install a HFC in the system, you should not waste any money on a downpipe or mid pipe replacment. I wont be worth the gains.

 

Another option is just to stay on the recommended Cobb stages, ditch the idea of an intake, and enjoy trouble free, reliable power. That's the path I took in 2008 and now in 2010 don't regret it for a minute. I'm putting down ~360 whp and ~370 ft-lb (Cobb Plano's Mustang Dyno) in a car so smooth your grandma can drive it.

 

What do you mean?

 

It's not that we don't want to work with Cobb, it's that we don't need one for our intake to work properly. We use the stock MAF housing so the scaling stays the same and doesn't need a readjustment from access port to run correctly. We have had a bunch of intakes turned at Cobbs facility and never had a problem.

You can literally run the intake with no tuning and a boost controller set at 24 psi and make 56whp over stock.

Thanks!

Michael