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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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Remove FAST System?

Is it even possible? I know folks like it but I can't stand it. My BlackBerry seems to interfere with the unlock function (causing a last minute dig for keys) and I'm tired of the car nagging me when I get the mail. When it fails (and it will) I'd rather not deal with being stranded. Is if feasible to remove?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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The system has a manual override. The fobs have the key mounted in it and the knob to start the car can be removed to use your key.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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The system has a manual override. The fobs have the key mounted in it and the knob to start the car can be removed to use your key.
I know about the key - but if the FOB is dead will the car start? Why do I hear of people forgetting their FOB and getting stranded at grocery stores etc? Happy to be proven wrong...
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Do you have the handsfree bluetooth setup? THAT can be disabled without killing FAST. Not sure what's the issue, other than perhaps that FAST key TSB. I have an appt for Sat to get me two new FOBs
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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I know about the key - but if the FOB is dead will the car start? Why do I hear of people forgetting their FOB and getting stranded at grocery stores etc? Happy to be proven wrong...
Oh, I just LOVED forgetting my FOB and having to call my wife from the grocery store. Using THEIR phone because I didn't think I needed my cell for a 10mile jaunt. I guess someone watched me stand there for 15 minutes with my thumb up my b--t.



If the FOB is dead, it'll still start with the emergency key, plugged in sorta to the FOB as a 'holder'. If you have nuthin, you better have luv. You're gonna need it cause AAA ain't gonna give it.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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The fastkey is also known as an active keyfob. it's always transmitting a very low-powered signal that your car senses once you're close. when the battery dies you can still start your car because you can use your key as a passive keyfob. once close to the ignition cylinder the keyfob's transponder inside powers up via wireless power, it needs no battery as the car powers it. technically you can always use it like this but why not just use active until it runs out?
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by journeymansteve

Oh, I just LOVED forgetting my FOB and having to call my wife from the grocery store.
How did you get your car started in the first place without the FOB ?

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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Prolly started it and went back inside and forgot it or something, if I had to guess.
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lancerarmstrong
The fastkey is also known as an active keyfob. it's always transmitting a very low-powered signal that your car senses once you're close. when the battery dies you can still start your car because you can use your key as a passive keyfob. once close to the ignition cylinder the keyfob's transponder inside powers up via wireless power, it needs no battery as the car powers it. technically you can always use it like this but why not just use active until it runs out?
Wireless power from the car? Dilithium Crystals or flux capacitors? Help me understand this one!
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 07:31 AM
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Prolly started it and went back inside and forgot it or something, if I had to guess.
Bingo.
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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Wireless power from the car? Dilithium Crystals or flux capacitors? Help me understand this one!
RFID. The technology actually has an unpowered chip that powered transceivers "activate" to identify the FOB fast key. Its how inventory is moved and tracked these days. It's so good, a Walmart store can use that as a theft prevention technique and even list the dang thing's SKU and serial number if the data is sent in from their suppliers to their EDI inventory tracking systems. It's also why one FAST key won't work on another EVO without first reprogramming the car. (THAT part is "old technology" approach for simple keyless entry FOBs)
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Well that is just plain cool. Guess I'll keep the system
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lancerarmstrong
The fastkey is also known as an active keyfob. it's always transmitting a very low-powered signal that your car senses once you're close. when the battery dies you can still start your car because you can use your key as a passive keyfob. once close to the ignition cylinder the keyfob's transponder inside powers up via wireless power, it needs no battery as the car powers it. technically you can always use it like this but why not just use active until it runs out?
That's actually not at all right. The fob is not always transmitting. There are certain things that you do in the car, that then transmit a request to any remote. If the remote responds to the car, the action is allowed. To see what I mean, touch your door handle while it's locked, and watch the light on the remote. You'll see the reaction. Same when starting the car.

The chip in the fob does not require battery power for it to work with the key. It is also waterproofed in case you drop your keys in water. It does not use "wireless power" It's a simple RFID chip.
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