car reviewers piss me off most of the time
car reviewers **** me off most of the time
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I usually like reading Warren’s car reviews, but this one I don’t like. Most car reviewers miss the point of driving. They tend to agree amongst themselves that the most balanced cars, comfort, fuel economy, and performance are somehow the best. They lose the point that it’s not getting there, but rather how you get there that is important to many of those who pick odd cars like the Mitsubishi EVO or it’s little sister the Ralliart. I traded my 2011 Outback for a 2011 EVO. Some thought I was crazy such as my wife. Why would I trade a well-reviewed car like the Outback. It was very comfortable, easy on gas, and 87 octane, very safe, utilitarian, and extremely boring. I’m 52 years old and have worked hard enough most of my life to afford to buy and operate a more foolish, but thoroughly enjoyable car like the EVO. I know full well that the fit and finish of the EVO is lacking. When I opened the trunk for the first time I couldn’t believe the cheap piece of cardboard they installed to act as the trunk floor, or the front visors that are no more than cardboard with a cheap vinyl skin. For some reason these things don’t bother me much, it’s the engine under the hood, the transmission, Brembo brakes, and many more quality components that makes this a bad *** performance car that is most important to me. I guess Mitsubishi could have used more quality body parts inside and out, but I guess it would cost more comparatively with a BMW M3 which I can’t afford. They put the quality in the parts that matter most to me, and makes it a car that an average person such as myself can afford.
Warren also forgot the most important point, the MODs! I have my list stacked up for the next three years.
I usually like reading Warren’s car reviews, but this one I don’t like. Most car reviewers miss the point of driving. They tend to agree amongst themselves that the most balanced cars, comfort, fuel economy, and performance are somehow the best. They lose the point that it’s not getting there, but rather how you get there that is important to many of those who pick odd cars like the Mitsubishi EVO or it’s little sister the Ralliart. I traded my 2011 Outback for a 2011 EVO. Some thought I was crazy such as my wife. Why would I trade a well-reviewed car like the Outback. It was very comfortable, easy on gas, and 87 octane, very safe, utilitarian, and extremely boring. I’m 52 years old and have worked hard enough most of my life to afford to buy and operate a more foolish, but thoroughly enjoyable car like the EVO. I know full well that the fit and finish of the EVO is lacking. When I opened the trunk for the first time I couldn’t believe the cheap piece of cardboard they installed to act as the trunk floor, or the front visors that are no more than cardboard with a cheap vinyl skin. For some reason these things don’t bother me much, it’s the engine under the hood, the transmission, Brembo brakes, and many more quality components that makes this a bad *** performance car that is most important to me. I guess Mitsubishi could have used more quality body parts inside and out, but I guess it would cost more comparatively with a BMW M3 which I can’t afford. They put the quality in the parts that matter most to me, and makes it a car that an average person such as myself can afford.
Warren also forgot the most important point, the MODs! I have my list stacked up for the next three years.
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I disagree that the fit and finish is lacking, but I know what you meant. I see no mistakes in QC or mismatched edges/panels or paint errors or anything else to suggest that fit and finish is poor. The inexpensive flooring in trunk or thin visor...well thats a bit nit picky, you should see the "visors" in the Miata! Ive never heard anyone complain about the trunk floor.
Additionally the EVO feels as safe, rugged and durable as anything Ive ever driven.
Ive test driven many a Subaru and wasnt dazzled...ever notice on the Imprezas that the passenger seat sits lower than the driver seat? Or the cheap seat material? Or the large swooshes on the dashboard 2011 and previous? Not too Imprezive...Just my 2 cents.
Additionally the EVO feels as safe, rugged and durable as anything Ive ever driven.
Ive test driven many a Subaru and wasnt dazzled...ever notice on the Imprezas that the passenger seat sits lower than the driver seat? Or the cheap seat material? Or the large swooshes on the dashboard 2011 and previous? Not too Imprezive...Just my 2 cents.
There are certain cheap qualities to the EVO. It is not a german car when it comes to the quality. People wont understand the fact that you buy an evo because it is an evo. Evo isnt a car that will just take you from A to B safely. It is for the adrenalin rush when you are on the thin line between spinning out of control and still holding it at a turn where you should be going 40 but instead doing 70. Most car reviews forget the fact of "fun". There are different types of people out there and most do not understand that fun factor. It is a very generic concept but EVO drivers know exactly what it is.
As for the article, he/she drove a RA not an EVO. Ra is a little better than a GTS but still both the GTS and the RA gave me the same feeling whereas an EVO was out of this world. I kept my evo stock for almost a year but now that I have stage 2, I know exactly what this car needed and I am loving it now. Cannot wait to finish up my stage 3 but not anytime soon. Gonna enjoy stage 2 for possible another year and hit stage 3.
As for the article, he/she drove a RA not an EVO. Ra is a little better than a GTS but still both the GTS and the RA gave me the same feeling whereas an EVO was out of this world. I kept my evo stock for almost a year but now that I have stage 2, I know exactly what this car needed and I am loving it now. Cannot wait to finish up my stage 3 but not anytime soon. Gonna enjoy stage 2 for possible another year and hit stage 3.
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Most car reviewers, unless they are from a dedicated enthusiast publication, only see the utilitarian side of cars. Kind of like a Consumer Reports type of review. To them, cars are like refrigerators or washing machines. Open, close, turn on, turn off. How could a car actually be fun to drive?
OP, I hear what you are saying. I am 59. I traded a G35 in on a Wicked White Evo GSR. A lot of people thought I was nuts. When I have told people that I know that I bought a new car, they ask what I bought. When I say a Mitsubishi Evo, they look at me like something is wrong with me. I can't believe how many people say, "A Mitsubishi?" They don't get it. They are not car people. They only know brand names like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus and Infiniti. They don't understand the performance capabilities of this car. I really don't care. Those who do know and appreciate cars have great respect for the Evo. I get thumbs up all the time from drivers in other performance cars.
Anyway, enjoy your car. As you said, it is very mod friendly and every time the boost kicks in, you will be reminded why you bought the car!
OP, I hear what you are saying. I am 59. I traded a G35 in on a Wicked White Evo GSR. A lot of people thought I was nuts. When I have told people that I know that I bought a new car, they ask what I bought. When I say a Mitsubishi Evo, they look at me like something is wrong with me. I can't believe how many people say, "A Mitsubishi?" They don't get it. They are not car people. They only know brand names like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus and Infiniti. They don't understand the performance capabilities of this car. I really don't care. Those who do know and appreciate cars have great respect for the Evo. I get thumbs up all the time from drivers in other performance cars.
Anyway, enjoy your car. As you said, it is very mod friendly and every time the boost kicks in, you will be reminded why you bought the car!
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If you care about the material your head liner is made of, you don't belong in an Evo, period.
The whole review is pretty symbolic of everything that is wrong with the current car industry. Catering to people who would rather have a solid feeling head liner then feedback in the steering wheel. Cooled seats instead of a limited slip differential. Solid feeling buttons on the dash instead of an exciting driving experience.
Well, in my opinion the Evo (and Ralliart) is great for all the negatives this guy says. If you want a great interior, you have plenty of options. The Evo/Ralliart represents one of the last options for people who care more about the driving experience then the head liner material.
Another funny comment I came across in a review I read lately too:
Taken from http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...volution-6.htm
The whole review is pretty symbolic of everything that is wrong with the current car industry. Catering to people who would rather have a solid feeling head liner then feedback in the steering wheel. Cooled seats instead of a limited slip differential. Solid feeling buttons on the dash instead of an exciting driving experience.
Well, in my opinion the Evo (and Ralliart) is great for all the negatives this guy says. If you want a great interior, you have plenty of options. The Evo/Ralliart represents one of the last options for people who care more about the driving experience then the head liner material.
Another funny comment I came across in a review I read lately too:
Taken from http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...volution-6.htm
The biggest kick in the you-know-where is the asking price - $5 shy of $42,000. For just $1,000 more, you can get an all-wheel-drive Infiniti G37 coupe. Let that sink in for a moment.
My point completely highlyevolved. The crap headliner is part of the charm. I got up at 6:00 am on a weekend that I can sleep in and drove several miles to Harper's Ferry Road in WV so I could have the thrill of driving my EVO on a tight curvy country road with lots of elevation change. Should not be taken past 40 miles per hour by most cars. I was hitting 75 and my EVO stuck to the road like glue. Drove the whole way home with a smile on my face
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I like how he bashes it even harder the more you read. If you don't like it, you'll find every little piece of info that'll backup your review.
Regardless, between a Ralliart, WRX, and a Speed3, I'd go with the WRX. Interior is a lot nicer and faster, since it's 265HP. The Ralliart would be able to compete with today's WRX if it produced the same power but it doesn't. I say, Mitsubishi is a little too late to produce these Ralliarts as the newer WRXs aren't around the 235HP levels anymore.
Regardless, between a Ralliart, WRX, and a Speed3, I'd go with the WRX. Interior is a lot nicer and faster, since it's 265HP. The Ralliart would be able to compete with today's WRX if it produced the same power but it doesn't. I say, Mitsubishi is a little too late to produce these Ralliarts as the newer WRXs aren't around the 235HP levels anymore.
I look at his review as an indictment of Mitsubishi in general. I fully believe if he was reviewing the EVO he would have compared it to the STI or G37, most likely picking the G37, but if he picked the STI, it would be for fit and finish and the politically correct fact that it was built in a zero landfill plant.
The interior is cheap... that's the beauty of it. They kept cost down where it was not needed & gave the evo an awesome motor & drivetrain. I cannot speak for SST but I love how my GSR shifts & feels. I have way more fun in my X than I did in my 8. It is kind of silly to take car advice from someone period. The only way to tell if the car is for you is to get in it, turn the key & hit the skinny pedal. I wish my car did not have A/C, power windows, radio, fast key, etc.... to save weight. People think that I am crazy when I tell them that. But that would be the right car for ME. I am sure mr headliner would off himself right there in the driver seat if there were no radio, A/C or power windows..... haha
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If you care about the material your head liner is made of, you don't belong in an Evo, period.
The whole review is pretty symbolic of everything that is wrong with the current car industry. Catering to people who would rather have a solid feeling head liner then feedback in the steering wheel. Cooled seats instead of a limited slip differential. Solid feeling buttons on the dash instead of an exciting driving experience.
Well, in my opinion the Evo (and Ralliart) is great for all the negatives this guy says. If you want a great interior, you have plenty of options. The Evo/Ralliart represents one of the last options for people who care more about the driving experience then the head liner material.
Another funny comment I came across in a review I read lately too:
Taken from http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...volution-6.htm
The whole review is pretty symbolic of everything that is wrong with the current car industry. Catering to people who would rather have a solid feeling head liner then feedback in the steering wheel. Cooled seats instead of a limited slip differential. Solid feeling buttons on the dash instead of an exciting driving experience.
Well, in my opinion the Evo (and Ralliart) is great for all the negatives this guy says. If you want a great interior, you have plenty of options. The Evo/Ralliart represents one of the last options for people who care more about the driving experience then the head liner material.
Another funny comment I came across in a review I read lately too:
Taken from http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...volution-6.htm
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From: Allen
Never pay attention to reviews if they:
1. Are made by a Democrat. If Al Gore knew what Evo's did and how many people run with a test pipe he would try and have them all confiscated.
2. Are a newspaper reporter that more than likely doesnt earn enough to fill up an Evo, much less own one.
3. Mentions anything about the car except the engine, transmission, and handling.
4. Actually expected the Evo to get good gas milage.
On a side note, the second link review the reviewer said the Evo GSR and MRT were exactly the same on ride quietness. That tells me hes more full of **** than a Christmas Turkey, because he clearly did even drive both cars. Everyone knows the MRT is very quiet compared to the GSR due to the sound deadning material.
1. Are made by a Democrat. If Al Gore knew what Evo's did and how many people run with a test pipe he would try and have them all confiscated.
2. Are a newspaper reporter that more than likely doesnt earn enough to fill up an Evo, much less own one.
3. Mentions anything about the car except the engine, transmission, and handling.
4. Actually expected the Evo to get good gas milage.
On a side note, the second link review the reviewer said the Evo GSR and MRT were exactly the same on ride quietness. That tells me hes more full of **** than a Christmas Turkey, because he clearly did even drive both cars. Everyone knows the MRT is very quiet compared to the GSR due to the sound deadning material.
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Never pay attention to reviews if they:
1. Are made by a Democrat. If Al Gore knew what Evo's did and how many people run with a test pipe he would try and have them all confiscated.
2. Are a newspaper reporter that more than likely doesnt earn enough to fill up an Evo, much less own one.
3. Mentions anything about the car except the engine, transmission, and handling.
4. Actually expected the Evo to get good gas milage.
On a side note, the second link review the reviewer said the Evo GSR and MRT were exactly the same on ride quietness. That tells me hes more full of **** than a Christmas Turkey, because he clearly did even drive both cars. Everyone knows the MRT is very quiet compared to the GSR due to the sound deadning material.
1. Are made by a Democrat. If Al Gore knew what Evo's did and how many people run with a test pipe he would try and have them all confiscated.
2. Are a newspaper reporter that more than likely doesnt earn enough to fill up an Evo, much less own one.
3. Mentions anything about the car except the engine, transmission, and handling.
4. Actually expected the Evo to get good gas milage.
On a side note, the second link review the reviewer said the Evo GSR and MRT were exactly the same on ride quietness. That tells me hes more full of **** than a Christmas Turkey, because he clearly did even drive both cars. Everyone knows the MRT is very quiet compared to the GSR due to the sound deadning material.
Never pay attention to reviews if they:
1. Are made by a Democrat. If Al Gore knew what Evo's did and how many people run with a test pipe he would try and have them all confiscated.
2. Are a newspaper reporter that more than likely doesnt earn enough to fill up an Evo, much less own one.
3. Mentions anything about the car except the engine, transmission, and handling.
4. Actually expected the Evo to get good gas milage.
On a side note, the second link review the reviewer said the Evo GSR and MRT were exactly the same on ride quietness. That tells me hes more full of **** than a Christmas Turkey, because he clearly did even drive both cars. Everyone knows the MRT is very quiet compared to the GSR due to the sound deadning material.
1. Are made by a Democrat. If Al Gore knew what Evo's did and how many people run with a test pipe he would try and have them all confiscated.
2. Are a newspaper reporter that more than likely doesnt earn enough to fill up an Evo, much less own one.
3. Mentions anything about the car except the engine, transmission, and handling.
4. Actually expected the Evo to get good gas milage.
On a side note, the second link review the reviewer said the Evo GSR and MRT were exactly the same on ride quietness. That tells me hes more full of **** than a Christmas Turkey, because he clearly did even drive both cars. Everyone knows the MRT is very quiet compared to the GSR due to the sound deadning material.
You could have just said the dude drives a pruis and farts inside just to smell it but I like how you put it though. GSR and MR T having the same noise level is purely retarded... I studied journalism and I didnt even know word to mouth was a legit way of acquiring information... For marketing sure but an article like this? that's pure stupid...
