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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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Noise coming from wheels

I went into Mitsubishi to get it checked out; I was getting clicking noise when braking... The tech there came to the conclusion that the lug nuts ( I was using non-factory ones) caused the holes to become worn and slightly bigger. He showed me that the factory nuts go slightly into the hole so that holds the wheels more snug.

As mentioned, he claims that the wheels aren't as snug on the hub and this causes the wheels the create that clicking sound when braking since the wheels are under stress when braking (this would happen only when I applied the brakes with more pressure)

Does this make any sense to you guys? I thought it was my brakes at first but he sticks with this theory (second time I'm there with this problem)
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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If you were using conical ("tuner") lugs or ball-type lugs on the OE wheels (which use mag-type lugs) then, yes, you could have damaged the wheels and this might be causing the clicking.

If you are using the wrong type of lugs and they let you drive away, then they are not the best people....
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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No we switched back to factory lugs... So I guess that's the problem...any way to fix this? I have stock BBS, he buffed the inside of the wheel to make it smooth + greased the hub, the studs and the inside of the wheel for now.

I wonder if this will go away on its own with some mileage or I am screwed with these wheels?

For what its worth, when I bought the car with 7500km on it, that was the setup they used so I didn't question it.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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In truth, I really doubt that the noise is coming from this. If this were my car, I'd be finding someone to temporarily swap wheels with. My guess is that this is all brake-shim-related and swapping wheels will not change the noise. The idea that the wheels are rotating against the hub just seems too unlikely, regardless of any damage from the wrong lugs.

ps. if the previous owner was idiotic enough to run conical lugs on a mag-type wheel, I wonder what other brilliant changes were made. go over the car very carefully. start with the basics: FP relay and verifying that the FP regulator hose is zip-tied.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Odly enough I took a drive this afternoon after changing the setup and noise dissapeared. Not saying it's gone for sure but its gone for now.

I could change it back to my winter wheels if the noise comes back, just to see if its really coming from the wheels itself, or my initial thought which were the brakes.

Thanks for clearing it up tho for me
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Isn't it something like 15 degrees cooler today where you are? Didn't you have an ice-storm? That will make a brake-shim noise come and go.

If you have a second set of wheels, then definitely try them if the noise comes back. If you're new to Evo Xs, one thing to get used to is the noisy, dusty, annoying brakes. There are some drawbacks to driving these cars.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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No no lol, its cooler but its not ice storm material...

If it comes back, I will try swap my wheels. I am new to Evo's but I quickly realized that everything is noisy. I wouldn't have bought an Evo if I cared lol
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Well, if you look at the brake pads, the way the calipers are designed, the pads could be hitting the side of the caliper.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Well I guess I'll try to swap my wheels just to isolate the issue. I was just curious about the lug nuts issue as this is the first time I encounter this.

If it is the wheels, is it possible to fix? Or I have to suck it up and save up for new ones?
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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If it was the wheels I'd save up and get aftermarket hub centering wheels. that way you won't have to worry about the lugs again
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tjac357
If it was the wheels I'd save up and get aftermarket hub centering wheels. that way you won't have to worry about the lugs again
Um. The wheels in question already fit the hubs perfectly. What exactly is this ring you want him to buy supposed to do?
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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If the 'fix' stopped the noise (i you said that) then that was the problem
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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OEM wheels from mitsu are lug centering, so the lug has a specific shape that centers the wheel on the hub

A lot of aftermarket ones are hub centering, so there is a ring that does the centering of the wheel on the hub. idk if you could simply buy hub centering rings and put them on the oem wheels.

it's worth a shot though
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tjac357
OEM wheels from mitsu are lug centering,
Buzz.

The OE wheels are hub-centric, not lug-centric. I cannot name any car that has mag-type lugs and isn't hub-centric.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Veronica
If the 'fix' stopped the noise (i you said that) then that was the problem
Grr.

The above is a valid form of reasoning if and only if everything else was the same. Since, as I pointed out, other things probably did change - e.g., the ambient temp - the above inference is not logical.
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