Downshifting
When on the brake with your right ball of your foot, roll the edge of your foot to add throttle after you've depressed the clutch. The key is to keep even pressure on the brake while blipping/ rev matching with the throttle. Shift and then let the clutch out, release the brake and add more throttle.
You need to practice. Wearing racing/ or at least good driving shoes helps. We pulled off the rubber/aluminum covers and screwed on aluminum pedals allowing us to shift the brake and throttle a little closer. This helps, and if you are tracking the car regulary, is the right solution.
Crazy... You must heel/toe. It's not just for the health of the transmission, you must to maintain the weight balance of the car when at speed. If you don't and then let the clutch out at turn in you will displace the car when you add all that torque all at once. you would have to slow down too much to get the revs down low enough to not shift the car balance.
When on the brake with your right ball of your foot, roll the edge of your foot to add throttle after you've depressed the clutch. The key is to keep even pressure on the brake while blipping/ rev matching with the throttle. Shift and then let the clutch out, release the brake and add more throttle.
You need to practice. Wearing racing/ or at least good driving shoes helps. We pulled off the rubber/aluminum covers and screwed on aluminum pedals allowing us to shift the brake and throttle a little closer. This helps, and if you are tracking the car regulary, is the right solution.
When on the brake with your right ball of your foot, roll the edge of your foot to add throttle after you've depressed the clutch. The key is to keep even pressure on the brake while blipping/ rev matching with the throttle. Shift and then let the clutch out, release the brake and add more throttle.
You need to practice. Wearing racing/ or at least good driving shoes helps. We pulled off the rubber/aluminum covers and screwed on aluminum pedals allowing us to shift the brake and throttle a little closer. This helps, and if you are tracking the car regulary, is the right solution.
I think too many kids watch videos where the people ACTUALLY use their heel and their toe, but in my experience unless you have VERY small feet, you're doing extra work. Just hold the brake with about half of your foot, and hit the gas with the other half by rolling your foot off the brake a little. This has actually been one of the EASIEST cars I have ever done this with.
As for WHEN you hit the gas, doing it as the gear slips into the gate seems to be the most effective for me.
Our transmissions are syncronized. Just shift down when its neccesery.
there is no reason to rev match the transmission in the evo, that is a reason why its syncronized for gear selecting. Hence you can get " locked" out.
Many many people.actually does run slower times on tracks because they pay too much attantion on the rev matching.
Rob
there is no reason to rev match the transmission in the evo, that is a reason why its syncronized for gear selecting. Hence you can get " locked" out.
Many many people.actually does run slower times on tracks because they pay too much attantion on the rev matching.
Rob
Even when I under-rev my downshifts, I feel bad for my transmission...
This x1000
I think too many kids watch videos where the people ACTUALLY use their heel and their toe, but in my experience unless you have VERY small feet, you're doing extra work. Just hold the brake with about half of your foot, and hit the gas with the other half by rolling your foot off the brake a little. This has actually been one of the EASIEST cars I have ever done this with.
As for WHEN you hit the gas, doing it as the gear slips into the gate seems to be the most effective for me.
I think too many kids watch videos where the people ACTUALLY use their heel and their toe, but in my experience unless you have VERY small feet, you're doing extra work. Just hold the brake with about half of your foot, and hit the gas with the other half by rolling your foot off the brake a little. This has actually been one of the EASIEST cars I have ever done this with.
As for WHEN you hit the gas, doing it as the gear slips into the gate seems to be the most effective for me.
This is my first manual car, most of my driving is done commuting to and from work in dress shoes, and when I'm not going to work I'm wearing Nike Air Max 90s (which definitely are not driving shoes). I've only put about 3 minutes into trying heel-toe, but my feet seem too big. Maybe I need some driving shoes? Also, my knees hit the steering wheel when I attempt a heel-toe... I sit pretty far away from the steering wheel, but because I'm tall my knees still hit the steering wheel. Maybe I need to move further back?
I want to learn heel-toe very badly because there are even times in daily driving the evo where it would be very helpful..
I totally agree with John and Rob. I like to rev match just to practice a smooth transition, but the X's pedals make it really difficult. It was way easier in my old STi.
Mitsu just thinks people have like a size 6-8...my size 12.5 just seems to not have enough movement room.
Mitsu just thinks people have like a size 6-8...my size 12.5 just seems to not have enough movement room.
What exactly do you mean by this? Are you saying you downshift without rev matching?
Even when I under-rev my downshifts, I feel bad for my transmission...
What size feet do you guys have?
This is my first manual car, most of my driving is done commuting to and from work in dress shoes, and when I'm not going to work I'm wearing Nike Air Max 90s (which definitely are not driving shoes). I've only put about 3 minutes into trying heel-toe, but my feet seem too big. Maybe I need some driving shoes? Also, my knees hit the steering wheel when I attempt a heel-toe... I sit pretty far away from the steering wheel, but because I'm tall my knees still hit the steering wheel. Maybe I need to move further back?
I want to learn heel-toe very badly because there are even times in daily driving the evo where it would be very helpful..
Even when I under-rev my downshifts, I feel bad for my transmission...
What size feet do you guys have?
This is my first manual car, most of my driving is done commuting to and from work in dress shoes, and when I'm not going to work I'm wearing Nike Air Max 90s (which definitely are not driving shoes). I've only put about 3 minutes into trying heel-toe, but my feet seem too big. Maybe I need some driving shoes? Also, my knees hit the steering wheel when I attempt a heel-toe... I sit pretty far away from the steering wheel, but because I'm tall my knees still hit the steering wheel. Maybe I need to move further back?
I want to learn heel-toe very badly because there are even times in daily driving the evo where it would be very helpful..
I totally agree with John and Rob. I like to rev match just to practice a smooth transition, but the X's pedals make it really difficult. It was way easier in my old STi.
Mitsu just thinks people have like a size 6-8...my size 12.5 just seems to not have enough movement room.
Mitsu just thinks people have like a size 6-8...my size 12.5 just seems to not have enough movement room.
My feet really are huge. I'm 6'2" and nearly 290lbs. I actually like to wear an old pair of shoes I have because they are super thin in the material and the soles are completely worn out just because driving in my newer shoes or DrMartens is magic when it happens.I totally can brake with half my foot and roll the throttle with the other half but, it really was --way-- easier in the GD subies. Just very minor pedal placement differences.
This is what I do but not the rev matching part since I dont even know when to match it. But now everyone is saying heel toe which is a little harder for me lol
Just be clear, you do not have to heel-toe to rev match. What I do is brake (so I put less strain on drivetrain), let go of brake, clutch-in & rev in a fluid motion, lower gear, release clutch. Then if I need to brake some more, I repeat. This is a "nub method", and is slower than heel-toeing, but is a similar concept.
Cant you just do it without breaking at all. I would think that hitting the brakes would slow you down even when heel and toe. Cant you just downshift from 5th to 4th by:
Clutch
drop it in 4th
gas
then release clutch
Clutch
drop it in 4th
gas
then release clutch
Just be clear, you do not have to heel-toe to rev match. What I do is brake (so I put less strain on drivetrain), let go of brake, clutch-in & rev in a fluid motion, lower gear, release clutch. Then if I need to brake some more, I repeat. This is a "nub method", and is slower than heel-toeing, but is a similar concept.






