And as far as which cmc is better.... There are failures with all of them. But very few with AMS/MAGNUS vs SSP. But in the end someone gonna buy a ssp version and complain about it..... Yes there are those that have had good luck with them like Michael said. But more bad issues than happy people. Just do your homework and you'll be happy.

 

I would definitely recommend planning on doing the upgrade sooner rather than later as it really isn't if but when as stated earlier in this thread. This is guaranteed not to fail or leave you stranded once installed.

I can definitely help you out when you are ready to purchase, just shoot me a PM

 

Thanks, I think I'll order one here soon. I was looking at the install and it doesn't seem like something that's easy to do, with some rigging and modding.

 

The magnus requires some grinder/cut-off wheel work, but the AMS should be a bolt-in remove/replace.

but you are correct the location is a PITA.

 

they install the exact same way.

 

Only one is remove replace is ssp or new Oem one. Both ams/ Magnus require grinding 2 bolt heads off at the firewall.

 

Yes the AMS instructions call for a grind mod, so what's the difference between the AMS and the Magnus, and is it worth the price?

 

the difference from what i see is 3 things, 4 if you get technical. ams looks to have rubber grommets to help with vibration wear, where the old hard line mounts to chasis. also from looks of instructions the bolts needed to grind are the 2 easier ones. and the technically one..... ams name. they say you can adjust pedal more on ams, but i dont think so. unless they replaced the threaded pieced on the 8/9 cmc with more threads. oh, just remembered, the way it connects to pedal is different. the ams looks to have oem snap on type, magnus has locking bracket. all the differences worth more?.... to me no.

 

The AMS is slightly nicer, with an anodized finish, pressed in studs, and a clutch line that snpas into the factory mounts, but the Magnus and AMS both function and install the same way. I would go with the Magnus since you can get them significantly cheaper than the AMS, since most retailers can't can't come down on prices with AMS. Even cheaper still if you can find a new OEM MC for cheap. I think I ended up with around $200-$250 total on the Magnus with the OEM MC.

I've installed both, Magnus on mine, AMS on a friends.

And it doesn't matter which studs you grind, both of them are a pain.

 

I'm 99% done with the install (Magnus). The grinding wasn't all that bad actually, it was just getting everything out of the way that was most time consuming. Used a Dremel with a reinforced cutting disc, only took two discs to grind the stubs all the way down to the firewall. Then I put two coats of touch up paint on the bare metal areas.

Just have to bleed the brakes and clutch and should be back on the streets.

 

Thanks that helps clear things up, I did notice that the Magnus on MAPs sight calls for chosing a MC, either an aftermarket or OEM, while the AMS has it included yet there's an option o omit it. I though that was the whole point. I guess I'll contact MAP or AMS.

 

Magnus used to include it as part of their kit when they were first released, but increased demand, with it harder to get, plus complaints that they were charging to much for the MC, and an introduction of a cheaper non-OEM alternative, they stopped including it, and gave customers the choice on where to get one.

AMS doesn't give you a choice, other than to omit, and they advertise that they include an OEM MC.

Remember that both of these "kits" are just adapter plates to mount the Evo 8/9 MC to the Evo X.

 

Ok that makes total sense now, so I do need the CMC, the "kit" just allows the Evo 8/9 or aftermarket CMC to fit the X. Got it. So even though my stock one hasn't gone yet, (knock on wood), it needs to be replaced entirely and the "kit" allows for the others to fit.

I appreciate the help and hopefully that helps others also.

 

Correct. With the Magnus, it is normally sold without a CMC and leaves you the option to source one down on your own, or if you order from a place like MAP, you have the option of having one included. With the AMS it is usually sold with the CMC, although it can be omitted.

The Magnus CMC was one of my first mods, because I knew eventually I would upgrade to a beefier clutch.

 

So, why does everyone keep selling something that's not a full OE replacement made of a metal rather than plastic.

The fact the CZ4A body has been out since 08 here in the USDM and companies are releasing something that requires grinding to make it fit is sad really.