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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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My deepest apologies. You see, over here in Iowa, MRs with clutch pedals are really rare, so it never occurred to me to include MRs in a conversation about whether one needs to use the clutch to drift an MR.
This would make sense if he ever said anything at all about using the clutch pedal...

He asked if drifting the car causes the clutch to slip. Which the answer is no, and could have simply been stated as such without a bunch of drama. But you chose a different route.

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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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No, drifting / sliding a car requires you breaking traction of the tires. Slipping the clutch will not help break traction or hold a slide so its not used. Assuming you know the ways to initiate a drift or slide slipping the clutch will only burn up your clutch. Watch in car footage of rally or gymkhana
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ddawg1130
This would make sense if he ever said anything at all about using the clutch pedal...
If you're correct that the OP was asking whether the clutch starts slipping on its own when you drift, rather than asking whether you need to use the clutch pedal when you drift, then that's the most amusing way for this thread to turn (on me). I don't believe that you're correct, but it's possible.

Do you think that the OP was talking about the clutch that disconnects the engine from the tranny or about the clutch-packs that constitute the ACD? You suggested above that some behavior by the driver would cause the ACD to open. To what were you referring?

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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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Someone once told me that if you drift an awd car that your constantly slipping the clutch. Is this the truth.
there is no reason to slip a clutch to drift. It is initiated my losing traction on the rear tires and then controlling the slide to a power applied slide called a drift. To keep the drift going you have to stay in low gears (in range to your speed) and keep the engine in high rev range to achieve max power to the rear wheels.

Slipping a clutch is used to feather the engagement of power to the drivetrain from a standing position, at high rev range. Anything else is stupid driving.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 10:43 PM
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So when I first read this I was envisioning the OP talking about the clutch plates in the diffs, not the clutch on the transmission (or maybe that's what whoever told the OP this was talking about). The OP could just be confused/wrong though.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Iowa999
If you're correct that the OP was asking whether the clutch starts slipping on its own when you drift, rather than asking whether you need to use the clutch pedal when you drift, then that's the most amusing way for this thread to turn (on me). I don't believe that you're correct, but it's possible.

Do you think that the OP was talking about the clutch that disconnects the engine from the tranny or about the clutch-packs that constitute the ACD? You suggested above that some behavior by the driver would cause the ACD to open. To what were you referring?
I do think the OP was talking about the clutch that disconnects the engine from the transmission. But I would guess that someone had told him about the acd going into an open state when the hand-brake is pulled or something and either mislead him or he miss-understood them.

Would be nice if the OP chimed back in right?
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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It would be good if he chimed back in.

Though if the OP is obviously interested in drifting, I'd say he needs to look at a RWD as opposed to an AWD car.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 11:02 AM
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Wouldn't it be amusing if the OP weren't posting because he or she is walking home from some secluded road after having blown out the T-case doing clutch-dump-initiated drifts.

Well, maybe not amusing for him or her.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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OP, ask
. He seems pretty skilled in the art of getting his evo sideways.. on pavement none the less...

But what that guy is doing isn't "traditional" drifting.

AWD's powerslide. Some people say "drift-slide".

In a RWD you can clutch-kick to break traction in the rear to initiate a drift. If the OP was referring to the clutch (pedal) position, maybe that's what he's confused with (turn in, mat the gas, kick the clutch in/out, counter steer and such, proceed to look cool).

It doesn't really work that way with our cars. Then again, I wouldn't really know. Never tried it. I've seen a subaru try to pull a neat u-ball after his 180 or 240sx friend pulled a quick stunt, and he just looked terribly stupid trying to follow up.
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