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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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How soon can I tune?

Hello everyone, I finally purchased an Evo X yesterday, let alone my first new car. I tried searching when it's safe to finally start tuning and adding parts but u couldn't find any results. How many miles should I break it in before it's safe to add bolt ons? Sorry if it's a stupid question, this is my first turbo and new car so everything is new to me. I'm learning as fast as I can though.
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 03:29 PM
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Break in per manual is 500 miles, I'd at least wait until then, following proper breaking procedure. Then I'd change the oil between 1500-3000 miles once. If you have an MR it's a good idea to change your sst oils around 5-7k for the first time.
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Thank you very much. Looks like I'll wait till after my first oil change at 1500 miles to add bolt ons. And I have the gsr, I've read to change transmission and differential fluids at 5k miles I think.
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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First new car, probably first evo, my advice would be to spend some time to get to know the car before making more power.
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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Also if your adding boltons to a brand new car your more then likely goibg to kiss your warranty good bye.
Also buy a chunk of bolt ons and THEN tune. You dont wanna buy a tbe then tune then get a mbc an intake and something else and have to pay to retune again.
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rjfg
Also if your adding boltons to a brand new car your more then likely goibg to kiss your warranty good bye.
Also buy a chunk of bolt ons and THEN tune. You dont wanna buy a tbe then tune then get a mbc an intake and something else and have to pay to retune again.

Definitely. Figure out your power goals and what parts required. Definitely can be done in stages but it takes time and plenty of research.
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SouperBuddha
Thank you very much. Looks like I'll wait till after my first oil change at 1500 miles to add bolt ons. And I have the gsr, I've read to change transmission and differential fluids at 5k miles I think.
New Evo's come with conventional oil. Up to you if you want to keep that in until 1500 miles, or change it sooner.

edit...I changed my transmission fluid around 6k miles. There was a decent amount of metal shavings in it.
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 05:03 AM
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Thank you very much everyone. Would it be recommended I change the oil at 1k miles then and change the transmission and diff fluids sooner than 5k? I am also doing as much research as I can and learning as rapidly as possible. Thank you everyone for your help, it's much appreciated. I'm just anxious to upgrade because the Evo had been my dream car for like 6 years
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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My car comes in July.

I plan on a pretty rigorous break in.

I plan to change the oil at these intervals.

150 - 250 - 500 - 1000(First synthetic change) - 3000 And then from there every 3k or so.

I also plan on doing the Amsoil change on my transmission at about the 500 mark.

Thats just me and what I have read.

But at about 1000 or 3000 I'm doing full bolt ons. (FMIC/Piping, TurboBack, EBC and Intake)

I can always take everything off and put it stock if i should break something.(At least I hope I can :-p )
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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Congrats! I remember waiting 5 years to buy my Evo

I would say enjoy the car as is for a while. Get to know her and how she performs.

Until you go past a minimum 500 miles taking it easy you shouldn't even be redlining her or putting her away all hot and bothered after a spirited commute home haha.

With that in mind you won’t even know what the stock car really does until you are out of those first 500 miles. After that I would personally give it at least another 4500-5000 miles to get familiar with her ways so you can determine for yourself where you want to begin your upgrades. Except you will be doing it based on what your experience with the car has taught you.

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Was there enough power but maybe you wanted a little more grip coming down that off ramp last weekend? Maybe start with Suspension and Wheels/Tires then.

Did that Boss 302 have nice taillights when it left you behind on the highway? Maybe time for MO POWA!

Did you plan for the stock tires to wear out that quickly? Because they will

***All above scenarios happened purely hypothetically and even then all hypothetical participants real or imagined never exceeded their posted speed limits. Except the Mustang, he was definitely speeding ***
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Haha thanks for the info Mani I'll definitely take my time and get to know the car before doing anything. I'm just still in that excited phase that I finally have an Evo
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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that question is too vague - technicaly speaking you could tune the car with 8 miles on it and you'd be fine - modern motors are built with such tight tolerances that the days of breaking them in is virtually gone - but do yourself a favor and drive the car as is so you can FEEL/HEAR the changes you make. It'll help you know when there is a problem and when you've made a change for the better you'll know it.
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mani8448

***All above scenarios happened purely hypothetically and even then all hypothetical participants real or imagined never exceeded their posted speed limits. Except the Mustang, he was definitely speeding ***
LOL. funny guy.

congrats on the car man. Yes, definitely take time to learn about the car and read as much as possible. Evo's, hella any sports car in general can be dangerous if driven the wrong way when being pushed. So if theres any advice that anyone will give you its to learn the car and learn your LIMITS.

The way you drive the car now will be different than how you drive it in 6 months and will be even more different this time next year. You'll look back and see how much you've grown as a driver and notice how you're able to extract more from the car. SO yeah thats my advice. Drive it, mod it, and learn how to extract the most out of it before thinking oh I need this big turbo or I need this suspension, etc etc.
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Great thread, as I was wondering the same thing. I also didn't realize that there was conventional oil. Seems strange if the recommended oil is synthetic which I assumed.

But I had a related question. I am interested in modding some as well, and wondered if I could run a cat back performance exhaust without tuning as I can't do everything at once. I was unsure though as I read that after many of these intake and exhaust mod's a tune is recommended. So you end up with a bit of catch 22 which points to doing both at the same time which is a bit much.

Kevin
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LastX
Great thread, as I was wondering the same thing. I also didn't realize that there was conventional oil. Seems strange if the recommended oil is synthetic which I assumed.

But I had a related question. I am interested in modding some as well, and wondered if I could run a cat back performance exhaust without tuning as I can't do everything at once. I was unsure though as I read that after many of these intake and exhaust mod's a tune is recommended. So you end up with a bit of catch 22 which points to doing both at the same time which is a bit much.

Kevin
you can run catback/full exhaust without a tune without a problem, as well as other bolt on's. It's when you add items such cams, turbo, injectors, is when you need a tune for the car to run properly.
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