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2015 Evo GSR vs. 2016 WRX

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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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But the Evo has too many shortcomings in terms of quality and fit and finish that I did not expect from a $30k+ car. The interior sucked, so I opted to upgrade to the Premium package and the Sight and Sound package for the leather interior, HIDs, and nicer sound. But even after spending all that money, the car still rattles everywhere! I guess a Mitsubishi is still a Mitsubishi no matter how much you spend...
Sounds like the BMW M2 or a modern Porsche is more your cup of tea? $30k+ car is not that great now a days.

I'm just happy put the $$ you spend on the car rather putting it into the interior. Even the focus RS cut cost with steel arms vs our rally inspired forged aluminum arm. I would pay $70k for an evo if they offered a full package super car level with great radio and interior but they don't.
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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 04:31 PM
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Mitsubishi said this once, you pay for the engine and the drive train, the rest is free

So stop complaining . LOL

( you start digging into the car more, and use it for what it is , you actually will find out this is almost a true statement. No joke)
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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by russ72
If it's a daily drive, there are other options besides just an Evo/Subbie, though both are good choices for various of reasons. Don't force yourself into just a evo/wrx corner, there are other decent sedans out there, Kia Optima(they have two turbo engines to choose from, plethora of tech, for better price), Hyundai Genesis, new Camaro/mustang.
I would sit down and list what you want in ur car, the needs and what your budget it(including, insurance, taxes, maintenance etc.), then look at all car manufacturers and test drive them. There's a lot of good cars out there with a lot of good value u just got to know what you want in your car and can live with or without... Good Luck and let us know...
Why not though? Just because it's going to be daily-driven doesn't mean he has to get a more vanilla car. The way that the Evo/WRX are stock is how a lot of people try to mod lesser cars (from a performance standpoint), so why not start at the point where other cars would finish?

I've had my Evo IX for ten years. Bone stock, and it's been a pretty good daily driver... not perfect, but I'm happy regardless, especially at the times where I put its performance to use. I couldn't really imagine having owned any of the other cars you mentioned. Even into my 30s, I still don't mind the ride, the wing, etc. Though there is a possibility I may move out East, so that long drive without cruise control is going to be interesting.
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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 05:39 PM
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get the WRX so you can enjoy a car without stressing about $$$.

get something else later. there will always be other cars.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
OP hasn't been back in a month, so this is a dead conversation regarding him.

I actually really like the current STI and think it's the best Subie we've ever had in the US. I just don't trust the engine, nor is it good for power.

If the STI drives and handles as good as it does now, drops 120kg, and gets a 290hp FA20 that can rev, I've found my next car when my Evo is paid off and turns into a fun car in a couple years.
This is my problem with subaru as well. I just don't trust their motors anymore and I've owned a subie in one form or another since 2003. First a 03 bugeye WRX, then 07 Tribeca loaded with options.

The 03 was fine but everyone I knew who had motors professionally built had their motor blow up unlike my friends that had American or European cars built, balanced, blueprinted etc. So the conclusion in the subaru world was if you wanted to build a motor you had to buy a factory short block, then build the top end the way you wanted.

My B9 had motor issues so got rid of it. Long ago subaru copied Porsche with their engine technology and used drilled cranks and forged internals. Thats NOT the case today and the WRX is no longer known for its technology, robustness, or quality of build.

And their dealer culture sucks when you have to deal with them. As if you're lucky to own one.

No thanks. Maybe someday again when and if they decide to make a quality car. And that's doubtful now that they won't have direct competition in Japan.

And just because they compete doesn't mean that quality disseminates to the production cars.

Unfortunately Japan has learned from the American car companies of old and has started to build lesser cars in order to make more money off maintenance

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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 06:30 AM
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I bought the Evo because I wanted one for a while but was too young and could not afford one. I had to settle for a new 2011 WRX. Now I can afford an Evo so I got one. And because the local Subaru dealership staff were ****** when I went to test drive a WRX, I wanted to give them the middle finger and bought the Evo just to spite them.
But the Evo has too many shortcomings in terms of quality and fit and finish that I did not expect from a $30k+ car. The interior sucked, so I opted to upgrade to the Premium package and the Sight and Sound package for the leather interior, HIDs, and nicer sound. But even after spending all that money, the car still rattles everywhere! I guess a Mitsubishi is still a Mitsubishi no matter how much you spend...

Ok, I'm done clarifying myself.

I'd really like to know what the OP got and his reasons behind his choice.
Man I don't know what car you are driving. There are a few rattles that do arrive, from the factory. But you spend like what, 2 hours addressing them from the wealth of the community that has come before you - and bam - noise free EVO.

I have the 'loaded' MR and I can't think of anything it lacks. It drives like stink, it handles just as well, and on top of it all I have a great factory stereo, leather Recaros, heated seats, sunroof etc..

Are the 'materials' of a lower quality than other cars that focused on luxury instead of performance? Yes, without a doubt. But really, do you sit there and study your dash and door handles while you're driving? I sure don't, and just enjoy the car.

Really what it sounds like is you should be in an M3 or M5 that has more luxurious appointments but also costs considerably more. That's totally fine and good, but pound for pound what you are paying for on the EVO is the drivetrain, engine, and transmission. The rest is just gravy. Could it have been done 'better'? Sure, but then we'd be talking about how the GSR was too expensive at 42k and the MR too expensive at 50k.

Find the fix rattle threads, they are out there and they are accurate.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 06:36 AM
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I agree Subaru stepped up their game in terms of handling.


If only they would ditch that engine.....
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:08 AM
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I'm sure that they will, coinciding with some midlife cycle refresh to boost sales, after squeezing every penny they can out of that engine and finally laying it to rest.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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My choice was between sti and evo x mr i bought the evo cause the sti were soldout at the time.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 09:11 PM
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My choice was between sti and evo x mr i bought the evo cause the sti were soldout at the time.
lucky you!
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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 10:18 PM
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Then there's the fact that you have to actually *look* at the Subaru every day. Evo, please.
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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the focus rs is the new king if im being honest but the x will always be a legend. no wrx bruh....just no
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nickemangione
the focus rs is the new king if im being honest but the x will always be a legend. no wrx bruh....just no
Nobody has even driven an RS yet.
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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Nobody has even driven an RS yet.
? ive watched several reviews on YT already. or are you referring to the public?
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nickemangione
? ive watched several reviews on YT already. or are you referring to the public?
public, yeah, and time on the streets, track, in the hands of tuners, etc.

seems like a decent car, but a bit too soon to call it the new "king".
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