Building without experience
Hi, im looking for anyone who has experience in tuning cars beyond full bolt ons because this is pretty much the limit I know.
Im thinking about putting a **** ton of money into an evo x build and those are my criteria
-I build it (I dont mind if it takes 800 hours of my labour alone in my garage, i dont want a shop doing it for me)
-Reliability
-400wheel on conservative
-Possibility for 600wheel later on
I know this means you need new motor/new internals and I dont want to pay a shop to do it for me. I dont have a lot of experience with cars as my bolt-on gti is the most knowledge Ive got yet. Would anyone recommend buying a crate longblock, shortblock from ams, maperformance, magnus, etc or should I buy head/block/etc all separately ? Is it a bad idea for the average joe like myself to go play inside the motor or anyone can with preparation ? Would you go with the 2L or bore it 2.2/2.4 ? With my little knowledge in the "built-motor" scene, litterally anything anyone with proper experience has to say to me will be usefull.
Thank you
Im thinking about putting a **** ton of money into an evo x build and those are my criteria
-I build it (I dont mind if it takes 800 hours of my labour alone in my garage, i dont want a shop doing it for me)
-Reliability
-400wheel on conservative
-Possibility for 600wheel later on
I know this means you need new motor/new internals and I dont want to pay a shop to do it for me. I dont have a lot of experience with cars as my bolt-on gti is the most knowledge Ive got yet. Would anyone recommend buying a crate longblock, shortblock from ams, maperformance, magnus, etc or should I buy head/block/etc all separately ? Is it a bad idea for the average joe like myself to go play inside the motor or anyone can with preparation ? Would you go with the 2L or bore it 2.2/2.4 ? With my little knowledge in the "built-motor" scene, litterally anything anyone with proper experience has to say to me will be usefull.
Thank you
Last edited by FredEvo; Feb 19, 2020 at 08:33 AM.
400whp does not even remotely require a built motor. Literally just a very mild turbo upgrade like the MHI-18k will make 400+ on pump gas with all the other bolt ons (full exhaust, intercooler, intake, boost controller, fuel pump, injectors). Since 400 is the current goal, I would suggest going this route before and enjoying the car for a while before going down the built motor rabbit hole.
400whp does not even remotely require a built motor. Literally just a very mild turbo upgrade like the MHI-18k will make 400+ on pump gas with all the other bolt ons (full exhaust, intercooler, intake, boost controller, fuel pump, injectors). Since 400 is the current goal, I would suggest going this route before and enjoying the car for a while before going down the built motor rabbit hole.
If you want to learn as much as you can, HP Academy has some really thorough learning videos available at a cost. There's a lot of free learning resources out there as well but quality and structure varies.
As far as what/how to build, that's going to be variables on your overall goals, streetabiltiy, etc. Bored out motors don't rev as well. Cam choices move HP/Torque curves around. Both are commonly matched to your turbo choice, etc. A built 2.0 that revs great and is matched to a 400hp turbo is going to look different than a 2.4L with a big turbo, big cam reaching past 600hp.
If you can find a local high performance builder/shop willing to talk to you for a while about your goals in exchange for some lunch or beer or something might be really valuable vs. just getting forum opinions
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