Eibach pro kit question
(That was a pathetic response, especially for a moderator.)
Please note that I was criticizing ProKits on KYBs, mostly because KYBs are highly progressive. Bilsteins, in contrast, are highly digressive, which works perfectly with highly progressive springs. If Eibach put a lot of thought into the design of their ProKits for Evo Xs, then they might have based them on the MR's shocks, instead of the GSR's shocks.
edit: this is a bit OT, but my parenthetical sort of requires it. You were quite correct, Kracka, to slap me for my initial eBay comment, but not for the reason you gave. I completely disagree that direct experience is a requirement to comment. An understanding of these system coupled with accurate data for the item in question is at least as good, if not better. My mistake was assuming that Eibach designed the ProKit for Evo Xs to be the same as that for 2G DSM. The mistake was not checking, first. Once it was clear to me that ProKits for Evos Xs are highly progressive, in contrast to those for 2G DSMs, I realized that what I wrote was way of base and accepted the slap (silently). But as soon as contrary experience with ProKits was posted, I started thinking about why and then wrote what I did this morning. If you think that your role as a moderator is to deride deeper discussion than "dooood, those blue wheels are wicked!" then have at it, but you'll never get the signal-to-noise ratio of this site up that way. Encouraging deeper discussion and understanding would be my suggestion. That's how we do it on DSMTuners. cheers
Please note that I was criticizing ProKits on KYBs, mostly because KYBs are highly progressive. Bilsteins, in contrast, are highly digressive, which works perfectly with highly progressive springs. If Eibach put a lot of thought into the design of their ProKits for Evo Xs, then they might have based them on the MR's shocks, instead of the GSR's shocks.
edit: this is a bit OT, but my parenthetical sort of requires it. You were quite correct, Kracka, to slap me for my initial eBay comment, but not for the reason you gave. I completely disagree that direct experience is a requirement to comment. An understanding of these system coupled with accurate data for the item in question is at least as good, if not better. My mistake was assuming that Eibach designed the ProKit for Evo Xs to be the same as that for 2G DSM. The mistake was not checking, first. Once it was clear to me that ProKits for Evos Xs are highly progressive, in contrast to those for 2G DSMs, I realized that what I wrote was way of base and accepted the slap (silently). But as soon as contrary experience with ProKits was posted, I started thinking about why and then wrote what I did this morning. If you think that your role as a moderator is to deride deeper discussion than "dooood, those blue wheels are wicked!" then have at it, but you'll never get the signal-to-noise ratio of this site up that way. Encouraging deeper discussion and understanding would be my suggestion. That's how we do it on DSMTuners. cheers
Last edited by Iowa999; Jan 26, 2012 at 09:22 AM.
I have eibachs and love them, great for daily driving. I dont really track my car and the drop is nice. Like kracka said, buy stuff that suits you.. for me, eibachs are just fine. I'll probably look into a set of coilovers eventually though..
If you are looking for a modest drop than the pro kit is the opposite of what you are looking for FYI...have'm on my car and the dang thing is slammed...after fully settling (12Kmi later) it seems like the front is lowered closer to 1.5-1.7 and rear ~1.3-1.4in drop...much less body roll though...
Last edited by Bigstakk; Feb 29, 2012 at 02:15 AM.
I didnt cut the bumpstops
Should i be looking into that? Other than that i love the stance and they ride just fine to me. I thought i was going to worry about scraping on parking garages, bumps, driveways, and so on and i have no problems
Should i be looking into that? Other than that i love the stance and they ride just fine to me. I thought i was going to worry about scraping on parking garages, bumps, driveways, and so on and i have no problems
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Why would you NOT cut the bumpstops if you're shortening the stroke by lowering? I cut the bumpstops on my friend's and never had a problem with hitting them...for a reason.
Eibach didn't intend for these to be track or autocross capable; so why make a judgement call based on it?
Eibach didn't intend for these to be track or autocross capable; so why make a judgement call based on it?
One reason not to cut bumpstops is that a shorter bumpstop is stiffer and sudden, instead of starting soft and being progressive. A cut bumpstop is also - wait for it! - shorter. Therefore, you are much more likely to damage the shock with a cut bumpstop.
Yes, if you're sure that the bumpstop will still do its job when shorter you can cut it and be fine. But if you don't need to cut it and/or are not sure that you'll be fine, it would be silly to cut it.
That's why.
Yes, if you're sure that the bumpstop will still do its job when shorter you can cut it and be fine. But if you don't need to cut it and/or are not sure that you'll be fine, it would be silly to cut it.
That's why.
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