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Which One is Faster MR or RS
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Originally Posted by groovytang
Can you give me the specs on the 1/4 mile time on the RS model, evo 8 , and MR?
also 0-60 dash?
also 0-60 dash?
V/// 0-60=5.4sec 1/4mi 14.2???
RS 0-60=4.8sec 1/4mi 13.5
This is from car n driver, but the 1/4 mi time for the evo 8 is wack I think, but that is what they say it is.
Originally Posted by evoRS04
MR 0-60=4.7 sec 1/4mi 13.4
V/// 0-60=5.4sec 1/4mi 14.2???
RS 0-60=4.8sec 1/4mi 13.5
This is from car n driver, but the 1/4 mi time for the evo 8 is wack I think, but that is what they say it is.
V/// 0-60=5.4sec 1/4mi 14.2???
RS 0-60=4.8sec 1/4mi 13.5
This is from car n driver, but the 1/4 mi time for the evo 8 is wack I think, but that is what they say it is.
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MR is quicker it weighs a little more yes but the gearing is much better and it pulls better 1/4 mile as 0-60 It will also get much better track times due to the extra suspension systems and traction control.
Originally Posted by Richard EVO
The important thing is that the RS and the MR are faster than the STi. 
??? i dont believe that is correct.
Subie: 300/300 2.5l vs
Mistu: 276/286ish 2.0( or 271/273 @ 88lbs lighter)...
!??!?!?!
I haven't driven the RS but with the new power increase and light weight it mustbe a bit faster, on the other hand we know for a fact that Road and track tested a red MR and got 0-60 4.3s and 12.7@108mph in the 1/4 mile which I have never seen that with the RS.
Like someone said, the 6 speed close gear ratio has a lot to do with a fast you get boost and how the engine provides a good torque curve.
My .50c
Like someone said, the 6 speed close gear ratio has a lot to do with a fast you get boost and how the engine provides a good torque curve.
My .50c
I thought I read in some magazines that the RS is about 150 pounds lighter than the standard evo VIII and that the MR's alum. roof, alone, makes the MR 300 lbs lighter. since they are the same hp/tq, wouldnt this make the MR faster? 
anyhow, i would say the MR would be faster on the track and 1/4 mile with the same driver in both. either way, all the evos are fast 
anyhow, i would say the MR would be faster on the track and 1/4 mile with the same driver in both. either way, all the evos are fast
This thread is so ridiculous in so many ways.
Facts:
1. The 5-speed and the 6-speed's effective ratios are nearly identical in the first 3 gears. It's 4th gear and thereafter that the 6-speed starts seeing closer ratios than the 5-speed. Go count the teeth on the gears and prove me wrong
2. In the US of A, the RS is equipped with identical drivetrains as the MR. The difference is in the suspension and wheels and all the aero/cosmetics stuff.
3. The biggest equalizer is the RS's lower weight. It cuts a good 50-100 lbs, depending upon equipment.
4. Food for thought, the RS has traditionally been the modified racer's choice. The MR has been the stock racer's choice. In Japan and elsewhere in the world, the RS comes with smaller wheels and tyres, and smaller non-Brembo brakes. It's basically a stripped down Evo to save weight and cut cost. Plus racers will put their own wheels and tyres and brakes on any way.
5. The 5-speed is a more reliable design than the 6-speed. The same goes for the RS's solid center diff as opposed to the MR active diff. Those are the main differences between the MR and RS outside of the US. For the US in 05, you don't have a choice. Both use the same drivetrain.
If you want an accurate comparison, put up an '04 RS against an '05 MR Edition. You'll really start to notice the difference in the 2 packages that way. The '05 RS is too similar to the MR to really notice.
Facts:
1. The 5-speed and the 6-speed's effective ratios are nearly identical in the first 3 gears. It's 4th gear and thereafter that the 6-speed starts seeing closer ratios than the 5-speed. Go count the teeth on the gears and prove me wrong
2. In the US of A, the RS is equipped with identical drivetrains as the MR. The difference is in the suspension and wheels and all the aero/cosmetics stuff.
3. The biggest equalizer is the RS's lower weight. It cuts a good 50-100 lbs, depending upon equipment.
4. Food for thought, the RS has traditionally been the modified racer's choice. The MR has been the stock racer's choice. In Japan and elsewhere in the world, the RS comes with smaller wheels and tyres, and smaller non-Brembo brakes. It's basically a stripped down Evo to save weight and cut cost. Plus racers will put their own wheels and tyres and brakes on any way.
5. The 5-speed is a more reliable design than the 6-speed. The same goes for the RS's solid center diff as opposed to the MR active diff. Those are the main differences between the MR and RS outside of the US. For the US in 05, you don't have a choice. Both use the same drivetrain.
If you want an accurate comparison, put up an '04 RS against an '05 MR Edition. You'll really start to notice the difference in the 2 packages that way. The '05 RS is too similar to the MR to really notice.
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Well said. I learned the hard way that if you are going to mod a car for the track, you should go with the stripper model. I bought a top-of-the-line '03 350Z Track model loaded with NAV (a $2K option), for the MSRP of $37,000, back in March 2003 when Nissan dealers were still asking markups. A few months later I became interested in modding the car, and spent a ton of $$$ doing it. I could have bought a Base model Z for $27,000 and had $10,000 left over for modding.
I did it right this time, and got the '04 RS. So far, just the JIC/Mueller suspension and Schroth 4-point harness, but lots of modding of the engine and turbo to come.
Well said. I learned the hard way that if you are going to mod a car for the track, you should go with the stripper model. I bought a top-of-the-line '03 350Z Track model loaded with NAV (a $2K option), for the MSRP of $37,000, back in March 2003 when Nissan dealers were still asking markups. A few months later I became interested in modding the car, and spent a ton of $$$ doing it. I could have bought a Base model Z for $27,000 and had $10,000 left over for modding.
I did it right this time, and got the '04 RS. So far, just the JIC/Mueller suspension and Schroth 4-point harness, but lots of modding of the engine and turbo to come.
Originally Posted by Richard EVO
g6civcx -
Well said. I learned the hard way that if you are going to mod a car for the track, you should go with the stripper model. I bought a top-of-the-line '03 350Z Track model loaded with NAV (a $2K option), for the MSRP of $37,000, back in March 2003 when Nissan dealers were still asking markups. A few months later I became interested in modding the car, and spent a ton of $$$ doing it. I could have bought a Base model Z for $27,000 and had $10,000 left over for modding.
I did it right this time, and got the '04 RS. So far, just the JIC/Mueller suspension and Schroth 4-point harness, but lots of modding of the engine and turbo to come.
Well said. I learned the hard way that if you are going to mod a car for the track, you should go with the stripper model. I bought a top-of-the-line '03 350Z Track model loaded with NAV (a $2K option), for the MSRP of $37,000, back in March 2003 when Nissan dealers were still asking markups. A few months later I became interested in modding the car, and spent a ton of $$$ doing it. I could have bought a Base model Z for $27,000 and had $10,000 left over for modding.
I did it right this time, and got the '04 RS. So far, just the JIC/Mueller suspension and Schroth 4-point harness, but lots of modding of the engine and turbo to come.
And the MR suspension is really tuned for refinement and not more performance. So I don't know how much performance you'll actually gain.
If I were to build a copycat MR, I would take an '04 RS, put on the wing, vortex generator, and wheels. That's it. It would perform just as well as an MR, and be more reliable.
But if you're racing though, the RS is definitely the way to go because of cost, like he said.
If the STI needs 300HP and 300 TQ to keep up or barely win the EVO because of the additional shift they gotta make, i dont see how the MR with less HP and TQ will be faster.