They aren't all bad.......
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Originally Posted by ZK
I have a few autocross trophies but nothing like your little collection!
Do you get a little trophy for each event or something?
Do you get a little trophy for each event or something?
It helped that I was undefeated in the SCR region.
You win a lot more stuff at the end of the year if you never lose
Out of 20 races(SCR and CCR), I got 17 1st places, two 2nds and one 3rd. Not too shabby!
Originally Posted by silverEVO8
I think you miss the point. The MR is superior to the base model in several respects. It's a special edition car with special equipment. That alone makes it better just because it's special. In addition to that, it has better driving characteristics because of the 6 speed, lightweight BBS wheels and the Bilstein suspension and matched springs. To some people these qualities make the MR a more desireable car than the standard EVO.
Trust me, I do understand what you are saying. But I don't agree with you. We have different values. What you consider more useful is not the same to me or someone else. For instance, for you it might be more uselful to buy and upgrade the TBE, cams, ECU, suspension, clutch etc. To me it might be more useful to enjoy my 6 speed and great ride and buy myself a nice vactaion in Europe
Trust me, I do understand what you are saying. But I don't agree with you. We have different values. What you consider more useful is not the same to me or someone else. For instance, for you it might be more uselful to buy and upgrade the TBE, cams, ECU, suspension, clutch etc. To me it might be more useful to enjoy my 6 speed and great ride and buy myself a nice vactaion in Europe

I would just buy a JIC or Tein coilover kit which would cost less and be far more superior then the MR Bilsteins.
Oh and the vacation in Europe I allready booked for this summer. I like to have my cake and eat it too.
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Originally Posted by BBYBruno
I would just buy a JIC or Tein coilover kit which would cost less and be far more superior then the MR Bilsteins.
Oh and the vacation in Europe I allready booked for this summer. I like to have my cake and eat it too.
Oh and the vacation in Europe I allready booked for this summer. I like to have my cake and eat it too.
While I would completely agree that Tein or JIC are far superior to just plain upgraded shocks on the MR. BUT I won't be racing! What would I need the JIC's for? I don't need camber adjsutment for street use.

While the overall cost may be less, it is easier to get some of the options I want inluded in the purchase price. I'm great at paying bills, I'm bad at saving cash
Originally Posted by Fluid1
While the overall cost may be less, it is easier to get some of the options I want inluded in the purchase price. I'm great at paying bills, I'm bad at saving cash 

100% True. I know what you mean, it's alot easier to finance those parts then to just throw down cash.
Originally Posted by BBYBruno
I would just buy a JIC or Tein coilover kit which would cost less and be far more superior then the MR Bilsteins.
Oh and the vacation in Europe I allready booked for this summer. I like to have my cake and eat it too.
Oh and the vacation in Europe I allready booked for this summer. I like to have my cake and eat it too.
Now, don't get upset, this degradation of ride might be excellent for you. There are folks who swear by their great race tuned suspensions. Again, it's matter of choice and my choice is to keep the factory ride in my MR.. I like it better that I did the stock ride of my '03 EVO VIII and I definitely like it better than the ride of other EVOs with modified suspensions. I guess to each his own

BTW, where are you going in Europe? I was thinking of Italy this time, but I'm not sure.... One thing I really like to do one of these days is drive on the autobahn and do some laps in the ring....
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Originally Posted by BBYBruno
100% True. I know what you mean, it's alot easier to finance those parts then to just throw down cash.
$1500+ for rims and tires
$????? for a 6-speed tranny swap
$1500+ for a good suspension
$????? for the HID's
$????? for the wind diffuser
Damn.
Originally Posted by Fluid1
While I would completely agree that Tein or JIC are far superior to just plain upgraded shocks on the MR.
Originally Posted by Fluid1
BUT I won't be racing! What would I need the JIC's for? I don't need camber adjsutment for street use. 

Originally Posted by Fluid1
While the overall cost may be less, it is easier to get some of the options I want inluded in the purchase price. I'm great at paying bills, I'm bad at saving cash 

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Originally Posted by silverEVO8
Now, don't get upset, this degradation of ride might be excellent for you. There are folks who swear by their great race tuned suspensions. Again, it's matter of choice and my choice is to keep the factory ride in my MR.. I like it better that I did the stock ride of my '03 EVO VIII and I definitely like it better than the ride of other EVOs with modified suspensions. I guess to each his own

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Originally Posted by silverEVO8
Don't be so sure.... they might be marginally superior in some respects and for some specialized purpose. "far superior" is a very strong phrase in comparing JIC or Tein dampers over specifically designed Bilsteins...
There you go... Why compromise the great ride of the MR for no reason?
In this area I strongly disagree. For me the freedom from payments and interest is invaluable. I don't even like to borrow money to buy a house although it can make better financial sense to borrow than to pay it off. For cars, car parts and other toys I would not borrow money but again, that's just my choice...
There you go... Why compromise the great ride of the MR for no reason?
In this area I strongly disagree. For me the freedom from payments and interest is invaluable. I don't even like to borrow money to buy a house although it can make better financial sense to borrow than to pay it off. For cars, car parts and other toys I would not borrow money but again, that's just my choice...
2. I don't want to compromise my MR for ANY reason! lol That's part of the reason I want the MR, it's already ready...already. lol
3. Of course I'll be paying more for the same things long-term..... such as when you use your credit card to pay for a meal, and you leave a $5 tip. Over time, that $5 tip turns into more.
It's not like I'm getting a whole lot of A/M parts included into my payments.....I'm just buying the trim of EVO I want, and it's easier that way. Overall, it's the choice I'd like to make. There are arguments wither way for both sides. What it all comes down to though, is what I can handle. I can handle paying XXX amount a month. And I can handle paying XXX+XX a month. I cannot handle paying XXX a month and save XXX a month for mods, especially not moving in with my girlfriend into a new house. My car modding with no regret days are over. lol It will save me $ in the long run I guess.
Originally Posted by Fluid1
No doubt. Here's what I would be looking at:
$1500+ for rims and tires
$????? for a 6-speed tranny swap
$1500+ for a good suspension
$????? for the HID's
$????? for the wind diffuser
Damn.
$1500+ for rims and tires
$????? for a 6-speed tranny swap
$1500+ for a good suspension
$????? for the HID's
$????? for the wind diffuser
Damn.

HID's come with the car.
Originally Posted by silverEVO8
BTW, where are you going in Europe? I was thinking of Italy this time, but I'm not sure.... One thing I really like to do one of these days is drive on the autobahn and do some laps in the ring....
Originally Posted by BBYBruno
I will be in Croatia along the Adriatic coast. I'll be right across from Italy.


