I plan on purchasing an evo in the very near future, I am not new to modding cars, however i am somewhat of a newb when it comes to FI and the mitsubishi community...although i do have a good sense of how turbo'd engines work. that being said, here are my questions:

1.) when does boost kick in on a stock evo viii, and is it diff for each gear?
a.) with a MBC, can you change when and where the boost comes in at specific rpm's in the specific gears to cater to driving conditions (ie track/dd)

2.) how is daily driveability with the evo viii? is there much lower rpm torque?

3.) I heard this car is very high maintenance...what are the normal maintenance requirements (ie new pads/rotors how often? new struts how often? tranny fluid how often? ect....as much info as possible would be appreciated)

4.) is there anything I should know before purchasing this car that i might not otherwise know?

5.) how is the stock clutch and tranny? i heard the older '03 models have had a lot of problems, any info on this would be appreciated.

6.) if i purchase a car with these mods already on it, what other mods would be necessary or good to have with this setup...i know most of these are pretty common, but is there anything to help it run more efficiently? or gain a significant amt of power accompanied by these mods (besides cams)
MODS:
3" TB Exhaust w/ HF cat and Magnaflow muffler
Buschur Intake w/ Hard Mass Air flow pipe
Upper I/C Piping w/ Forge recirculating BOV
Lower I/C Piping
Buschur Mini Mattery
Autometer Boost gauge
680cc Injectors
Walboro 255 Fuel Pump
AMS Flash (Feb 17th)-tuned to fit current mods
ACT Clutch
Fidanza Flywheel
Buschur spark plug cover
Turbo XS MBC (20PSI)

7.) with the above mentioned mods, the dyno was appx 285awhp/276lbs torque...is this an average gain?
A.) what does the stock Evo VIII dyno at in terms of whp?

8.) i have heard a lot of 1/4 mi and 0-60 times from the evo, i was curious what the avg from this community has been?
a.) what kind of times should be seen with the afore mentioned mods?

**that is all i can think of for now, but i am sure i will add more, thank you in advance for any answers.
P.S. If anyone is selling a Black, White, or even Blue evo VIII or IX, feel free to shoot me a pm.

 

1 - You will have full boost around 3200 RPM in 4th gear. Load (on the engine) creates boost. Higher gears have higher load.

2 - No, only max boost is adjustable.

3 - When they wear out ..Change oil every 3-5k, and the rest depends completely on your driving style.

4 - Run CarFax on it and make sure to get a good test drive.

5 - Not the best in the world, but there are plenty high milage Evo's on stock clutches and stock trannies. Depends how hard you drive.

6 - Cams and a tune (not just a flash)

7 - Need to know what kind of Dyno the car was Dyno'd on. A Dynodynamics might read around there, but a Dynapack or a Dynojet should read higher. For instance my '05 Dyno'd at 300WHP/315WTQ with intake/exhaust/MBC/flash on a Dynopack. Stock you would see about 250 awhp, or probably 210-220 on a Dynodynamics.

8 - low 13's stock with a decent driver

8a - Those HP #'s should put you somewhere in the 12's depending on what dyno they came from, and the driver

 

ooo good thread

 

thanks for all the answers...i still have some more, so instead of making another thread, i`ll just post them here....

does the 06 IX bumper fit the VIII as a direct replacement?

how is daily driveability? does it do will with bumpy roads?

I've heard low end torque is bad, is this true?

does the evo drive well in the snow? snow tires needed or not?

When does boost kick in in each specific gear?

what mods will help with low end power/torque?
with cams, how driveable are the most conservative set?

When you say "tune" over remapping the ECU, im assuming you are talking about timing ect...?

i know i have more questions, but this is all for now, thanks again in advance.

 

Look, man, we're happy to help, but you are simply abusing Stew's willingness to help. All of these answers can be found through some searching, and are required by the RULES to do that before posting a thread and before asking questions. We are HAPPY TO HELP, but you can't expect us to do so much work for you when you do absolutely none on your own.

I'll give you a few quickies, but please, PLEASE do us a favor (and yourself) and start using the Advanced Search:

- Bumpers are the same, why would you switch? (we didn't get the JDM rear)
- We have huge torque and it's all in the low-end. I think you're talking about turbo lag
- Unusable in the snow without all-seasons or snow tires. Stock Advans become hockey pocks below 40*
- There's no exact time, but it's usually 3500-3800rpm. HIgher gears spool the turbo earlier due to having more load
- Exhaust, boost controller, lower intercooler pipe
- If you don't know what a tune is.......

 

^^^ what he said x 1000000

 

The "low end torque" is not stellar when off boost. When you do hit boost it is more than enough. You won't be pulling stumps out of the ground between 1-2.5k RPM, though. Even though the turbo spools up very nicely with certain mods, it still isn't the same instant power delivery that comes with a large displacement NA motor. Things to consider when buying an AWD turbo 4cyl. I think you'll see what I mean by looking at some dyno graphs available on many of the vendor forums.

I would recommend getting an Evo IX if you are looking to make power sooner. The Mivec on the newer model helps to produce torque sooner than non-mivec. I would also be very sketchy about purchasing a used modded car.

 

I understand the search function and have used it to learn about certain things, and i am no newb to car forums....hence the reason i am posting in the Newbie forum...all the questions i am asking should be somewhat common knowledge for an evo owner, i am not asking anyone to spend time searching for me, if you know the answer, please post, if not, no big deal. Besides all of that, i would rather ask myself and get specific answers and word the questions exactly how id like to word them. However, thank you for the answers you provided.

also, i didnt specify, but i meant the FRONT fascia...is the VIII and IX's interchangeable bc they DO look different.


dayf, that was exactly what i was trying to figure out thanks...and
besides the fact you dont know how the previous owner has treated the car, why would you be hesistant to buy slightly modded evo? I will not buy a car with more than 10-15k miles used, especially a car like the evo. any info is appreciated.

 

Does Warrtalon always come off like a ***** or is it just my computer?

 

To sum it up in a sentence.. The more power that is made, the more wear and tear a drivetrain will likely suffer.

But I think that it's more important to consider how the original owner drove and maintained the car.

What is your budget for buying a car? Can you afford a new evo? I would consider that.

 

He gives some useful info if you can read between the lines and take things with a grain of salt.

 

1. You're probably reading and assuming the turbo is like a light switch. It's not. It all depends on a combination of throttle, gearing, and current turbine spool...so the boost builds at approximate ranges on each gear.

2. A stock Evo is a fun everyday car. Ride is rougher than say a Lexus...but if you wanted good ride quality, you should have bought a Lexus. The ride doesn't beat you up too much as you would think, only a test drive will give you an idea. Make sure you change to all-season or snow tires during the winter.

3. maintence parts and fluids are more expensive, but not prohibatively expensive. It all depends on how hard you drive your car and what you use it for. If you learn how to do the labor yourself, you can save a boatload of money. You'll find out you'll use a lot of the premium products for the car...good pads, fluids, everything, so it's more expensive than owning a Corolla. There's a set maintence schedule just like any other manual transmission car.

but here's the kicker: the insurance is insane for this car, get a quote first to see what it will be for you. If you can't afford the insurance, it doesn't matter how afforadable the car is.

4. It looks like you'll be purchasing a used car. I highly suggest verfiying the car was never modded and then returned to stock parts...

5. It all depends on the user. The clutch isnt' weak. There some guy in DC with an 03 with like 120k miles and still on the stock clutch. Note: some 03's has the 5th gear syncro problems and would grind, make sure you give it a test drive in 5th.

 

What is the deal with picking on Warrtalon? He is a straight forward guy, big deal!
I am pretty sure he has proofen himself a bit more usefull member than most. He is one of the members who answers more questions than he asks. What is your contribution?
name calling?

 

mdosu...thanks for the info....
i have a fairly good understanding of how turbo chargers effect the engine, but will admit i've never driven a turbo charged car before, so i guess i am anxious to see what it is like.
im not worried about a rough ride, i garuntee it can't be any rougher than my car right now, im more worried about how it will handle pot holes, country roads, and just crappy roads in general (theres a lot in IN)

I can do all maintenance my self (ie oil change & filter, pads, rotors ect...), and if I am going to buy the evo, i will use nothing but the best...im a firm believer in you get what you pay for.

Is insurance worse on the evo than say on a 2-door coupe, Im not really worried about it bc i am confident i can afford it, i probably will buy used for around 25Kish and no more than 15k miles and hopefully '04-'05, although ive been seriously considering an '06 IX, but dont know if the it is worth the extra 6-7grand.
I was curious about the clutch issues bc ive read about the 5th gear grinding problems in the '03s, so i will probably try to stay away from them just to be safe.

thanks for all the info, as soon as my car sells i will be purchasing an evo if i can find the right deal, just have to be patient i guess.