Looks like I'll be purchasing the Innovative LC-1 with the XD-16. Anyone know where I can get one for a good price

 

would also like to know this...

 

got mine from logic performance...got a good deal.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=innovate

 

i have thrown together some info and reviews on various widebands ive used

http://www.lanevotech.com/showthread.php?t=3


there are several good products out there now days that are not expensive either. its a great investment

 

Hello,

What do think about the Zietronics ?



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I have owned the Innovate unit the LM-1 and the LC-1 XD combo and both have been replaced by the Zietronix unit. Your have so many more options and flexability.

 

Thanks for the information.



What about the PLX 500 ?



EDIT: I'm going with a Zietronix from TTP.




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Im planning in the near future getting the Zietronix from RRE 8)

 

Guys,

Why would folks NOT go with Evoscan ($15) to log all of the essentials ??

I have been thinking about the Zeittronix and Innovative products, but it seems easier and cheaper to go with EvoScan. Thoughts? Have any of you started using Evoscan (yes I know it is still in Beta)?? Thanks

 

EVOscan wont log AFR unless you have a wideband.

 

Evoscan does not plot. It is not traceable. Evoscan has an input for the ZEITRONIX wideband.

Zeitronix is where it's at. 74 samples per second per parameter is one of the highest if not THE highest capture rates of any wideband on the market.

Difference from many of the displays is that the ZEITRONIX has a higher display refresh rate and plotting sample rate than many.

ZEITRONIX is not just a wideband. It is a hardcore tuning tool that logs RPM, LAMBDA, AFR, RPM, BOOST (with medical grade AEM boost sensor), EGT (exhaust gas temperature) which is critical in alky and meth injection systems. It also has an INPUT1 for logging 0-5v such as knock sensor voltage.

Newest feature is the Z-Audio Visual Warning siren and LED with SAFEGUARD trigger. The alarm and LED can be set to ALERT you of MAX EGT Exceeded, OVERBOOST, too LEAN or RICH. It can also act as a shiftlight and set to any programmed RPM such as 7500rpms or so.

The TRIGGER part of the Z-AVT is programmable so that if you set it to say 900*C-EGT for example, the alarm will sound, the LED will go off and 12v will be sent through the trigger wire which can be hooked up to a solenoid and cut boost to wastegate pressure 11-13psi, preserving your motor.

This works especially well in AlkyInjection systems where there is most certainly something that can potentially go wrong including user error. If you run out of alky, get a clog, blow a fuse, tune insufficiently, these all lead to high EGT's. With the EGT trigger set on the zeitronix software, once it reaches your programmmed threshold, it will trigger the 12v and set off your safeguard whether it be a solenoid or an AEM or MAFTPro map switching signal.

This is GREAT STUFF! Most bulletproof safeguard available.

Here is an install photo:


Here is a DRAG RACING pass on our 127.62mph stock turbo run:

 

TTP,

Thanks ....That is the sort of information that makes this site amazing.

So now I guess I need Zeitronix & Evoscan ....I wish you were closer so I could just drop the car off ....

 

it wasnt my favorite, wasnt crazy about the display, it can some times be hard to see the numbers.

i havent done back to back testing between the zietronics, but from the times ive used them i dont think it responds as quick as the plx.

however, they are fairly inexpensive, and they do the trick.

 

I went and picked up a ZT2 today.


Question about the PLX500: How is the live datalog display on the LCD ?
That would seem like a neat feature.


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Zeitronix all the way. You can't go wrong.