O5's are better then 03's but not as good as 06's.

 

Hey Travis, I do know who you are & your situation. I think it is ridiculous that you come on here & talk bad about us. Here are my reasons I feel that it is ridiculous: (I'm not afraid to back up what I say unlike yourself)

1. The used Evo that you bought from us must not have been too bad since you drove it for 20k miles & the car is here right now & I went out & looked at it & there is nothing wrong with it. I worked in the bodyshop industry for 10 years before coming here.

2. When you wanted a new Evo you came back to Medina Mitsubishi.

3. You sent one of your friends to Medina Mitsubishi to buy a new Evo.

And just so all of you know, travman is far from being local. I am guessing it is a 2-3 hour drive if your are in the Pittsburg area & his friend was from out of state also (I heard 6 hours away). The reason I heard you were back & you refered a friend is because sales hooked you up on both of your deals.

You also spoke of a honesty issue, how can you say that we lied about something we didn't know about. If the previous owner didn't disclose it, the Carfax is clean, our mechanic that did the used car inspection didn't notice it, our sales dept. didn't notice it, & you didn't notice it, how can you say that was kept from you.

That is a fact with used cars in general, unless your grandma owned it & you did all the maintenance to it, there will be things you don't know. That doesn't make it a bad car, it just gives it a little character.

 

it seems very clear , tht Used car department dun check the car thruly enough even if they r under the same dealership and has enough recources to do deep research.

It is not certified pre own, i guess travman has the point medinamitsubishi used car dosent do their best to check everything . Dont notice means dont check thruly for a dealership tht sell and service the very same car.

"we didn't know about. If the previous owner didn't disclose it, the Carfax is clean, our mechanic that did the used car inspection didn't notice it, our sales dept. didn't notice it, & you didn't notice it, how can you say that was kept from you."

 

Do I have your permission to answer those questions? because there is information that I can give that I dont want held against me at anytime? If so I will answer each and every one you ask.....

 

You can answer whatever you want, I've said my piece. Like I said from the beginning is I just didn't like the initial slam on this place without a reason & thats why I investigated it here. If your post would have said don't buy a car from them because.......& you had a good reason, I wouldn't of even replied. It also happens that your old car has been sold & was back in for service work yesterday so I went out & looked at it. I personally didn't see anything wrong.

I am in parts, & I have quite a few excellent Evo & DSM parts customers that I know are on here regularly & thats how it was brought to my attention. All I know is my parts customers leave happy, & I don't like seeing anything bad about Medina Mitsubishi in this community.

 

so yur saying I can tell my peace and you will not legaly hold me liable for any reason? I need this clarified.

 

The best tip:

Don't.

 

I'd have to disagree here.

The other cars you mentioned are all RWD (or, FWD would apply here as well). With the WRXs, STIs and Evos, you're just now getting high performance AWD cars that are bought primarily by a younger demographic.

These are cars that, because of the AWD components, are naturally a little more... I don't know if "fragile" is the right word, but it will do for lack of a better one... than the others listed.

So combine that with all of these imports having a huge cult following before they ever landed over here (and bringing with them a huge mystique of what they're capable of), drivers who don't understand the inherent differences between how an AWD car drives compared to front and rear-wheel drive, and people throwing mods on that will, almost certainly, compromise the car to some extent or another, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

I'm not saying that you can't find well maintained ones out there. And as has been mentioned, I'd almost prefer to see the car with all the modifications done by the owner so I know what they did to it. However, there's just a much higher risk involved, so you've really got to do your homework and look closely at the car you're getting if you're going used.

Me, personally, I would never buy a used performance car of any kind. By their very nature they're more prone to having problems, and I'd much rather pay the higher price for the peace of mind in knowing exactly what's been done with, and to, the vehicle.

Good luck with whichever path you decide to go with!

 

I agree that it is somewhat of a risk to buy a used performance car, but there is one fact that is being left out here. The waranty. If you are buying a used evo it should retain the remainder of the factory warranty. You were looking for an 05 so it should have the 100k. So if the previous owner did get a little rough with it, its still covered for at least a couple years. I know in my case, I bought an 03 with 21k that was moded and put back to stock. There were some parts left so it was obvious that it had been moded. I got the dealer to certify the car and give me the 100k waranty. They said it was the first evo they have ever certified, but it doesn't mean there can't be a second.

 

Counting on Mitsubishi to honor the warranty on a modded Evo is a risky proposition...

Maybe they'd be more open though if you weren't the one who modified it?

 

A Supra 6 spd or Vette tranny cost more than an EVO tranny an T/C together so no I cant see your point

 

Well I'm not really sure how this relates to anything I brought up...

Cliff Notes for my post:

1. Until recently, we didn't have a lot of high-performance, AWD vehicles (there were a few exceptions, of course - the 1st and 2nd gen. Eclipse, etc.) at a price point where the average consumer could purchase them.

2. People, especially the younger crowds these vehicles typically appeal to, generally weren't used to the differences in driving a high horsepower AWD vehicle as opposed to RWD/FWD, leading to more "abuse" to the vehicle.

3. With the mystique these cars carried over from their overseas markets, people were generally a little... optimistic... in what they could, and could not, do.

4. I personally woulnd't buy a high performance car because I want to know how it was treated, and I'm willing to pay more for new.

 

All the cars I mentioned are bought buy a generly younger demographic as well.

 

Yes, but how many are AWD?

It's not just the age, although that certainly is a large factor, but the fact that a lot of people weren't used to driving AWD vehicles that had a lot of horsepower.

Sure, if you could afford a Porsche or something, but then you most likely woulnd't be looking at an Evo anyway!

I was (and am) still very much in touch with the Subaru community, and you wouldn't believe how many threads were made when the WRX first came out about how bad the trannies were. While they may have not been the best choice for a performance car, the fact is that the vast majority of these problems were caused by people putting too much stress on the drivetrain because they were trying to drive them like 2wd vehicles, i.e. launch

Same thing still exists today with the Evos. How is it that people still complain about the transmission, even at stock power levels, while many people who know how to properly drive an AWD car can get tens of thousands of miles on the stock clutch even with some modification?

 

I personally love Medina Mitsubishi. Other than you, I have heard nothing bad about them. I thank them for being cool enough to bring us the BR 350 put together b/n them and Buschur Racing. I have bought 3 cars there (01 mirage used, 06 galant new, 06 evo rs new). They have always been very fair, and very kind and helpful. I have also seen your old car, looks like the only thing wrong with it, is that it has a new fender, boo hoo. You even say the clutch lasted another 20K plus after you purchased it. Must not have been beaten that badly. All the spot welds are factory, and none of the metal is twisted in the least. I am a mechanic and one of of Pete's loyal customers. And a question for you. If they did you sooooo wrong, why did you go back to buy your new car there?