btw if methyl alcohol burns cool, your car would not go anyway.

a stoichiometric burn of 14.7 to 1 on gasoline and a 6.5 to 1 on methanol will result in the same flame temperature of ~1523K

 

Why cuz u don't like that I like AlkyControl over others? Who cares this isn't gonna hurt anyones sales, and I'm not making any money or getting any cool points either...

Ehh anyways the who is better than who part of this thread is squashed anyway so the bottom line is meth injection is cool, do your research and get what works just like anything else (turbo kits, clutches, etc.).

Ahh see over in nasty big cubic inch world we run ***** amounts of boost like... 8 to 10... lol... and God forbid 15psi!!!

Well the amount of boost is starting to go up as more and more people get built bottom ends but we don't usually end up running half the boost ya'll usually do.

ehh, I think that people understood what I meant by that but thanks for that scientific correction,

 

Sp3ak,

Man it is alright. Everyone has a right to their opinion. We are all here to learn and talk about our personal experiences. Some people just like to start problems. Quick question. Can you buy a sealed fuel cell and run a hose from the pressure side of the turb to the fuel cell with no pump that way the more boost you run the more meth that gets injected? Or does the meth have to be injected at high psi? I have a friend that built his own meth kit for his grand national and he doesn't even use a pump. He said that he ran a vacuum line from the turbo to the fuel cell and then a hose from the fuel cell with a valve that is activated by boost to the TB with a spray nozzle. Sorry if I didn't elaborate enough.

Thanks,

Cameron

 

that's pretty interesting. reminds me of the fuel "pump" system of the RC nitro cars (which i happen to run). with these cars, in order to get a better flow of fuel and not go lean, there's a tube that runs from one of the chambers of the exhaust muffler/tuned pipe into the top of the fuel tank to pressurize the latter. the higher the engine rpm's, the more exhaust pressure in the muffler = more pressure in the fuel tank = more smooth supply of fuel.
btw, the aformentioned RC cars run on a mix of methanol+nitromethane+oil. when u pour the fuel on ur hand it feels cold as the methanol evaporates very fast. wouldn't that be a good indication that alcohol cools better than water?

 

Heh, heh... I'm shooting for 15 psi next year if a business venture takes off... I'll run meth, but I also need to lower my compression from 10.9:1, to 9.5:1. So while the motor is out getting new pistons, I may as well do head work, rods, studs, seals, etc., basically build the motor for 30 psi even tough I'm only going to run 15-20. I can't wait, hopefully everything works out... I'm getting tired of 10 psi already!

 

what meth kit is the best???? coolingmist, smc, acwamist. or other. i just wantg to know the best kit on the market.

and on a side note. how is the cooling mist kit????

 

I am using the ams kit and I have had no problems. I just picked up two 5 gallons barrels of meth last night actually.

 

My vote is for SNOW PERFORMANCE and by the amount of sales they have I would assume they are near number one, there are some other good companies out there but I can't speak for them...

 

caswanso: I'm not sure.. I'm not at all an expert on meth injection. You'd have to do some research on that to see.

evodan2004: what determines best for you? does high price indicate best? does most popular? its all up to you. After a brief discussion with Ultimate CC we comfortably agree that meth injection is a great option but we tend to stray when it comes to what kit to use. The shop I work at uses a kit called AlkyControl (www.alkycontrol.com) -- It has done us very well with no serious issues (we have had one or two bad pumps out of the box but no failures after install). I will say in the defense of other kits that the AlkyControl kit is on the pricy side as far as I know (usually $500-$550 per kit). Keep in mind though this isn't a big company, just one guy doing all the work.

Just look around some more. I'm not sure of the kind of features that the Snow Performance kit (and others) offer, that'd be something to discuss with Ultimate CC or someone else that sells them. Some of the claims on their website are a little bit bogus IMO (up to 60hp gain is kinda silly but whatever)... I'm not about marketing something and talking it up on the internet to make it successful. But I don't want this to be a pissing contest. Anyways, I do know the AlkyControl kit uses a PAC progressive controller which gives you, "Ability to electronically adjust turn-on point, initial pump speed pressure, and ramp gain of final pump speed pressure using any 12volt injection pump." (taken from the website). You can go there and find out more information about it, maybe give the guy a call. I'd reccomend doing the same for the other available kits too and look into what problems people have had with them (i.e. pump failures, inconsistent methanol spraying, faulty controllers or wiring, etc.). Just like anything else theres many options and many people that will tell you what they think is best!