Evo vs Sti
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i see...if i were to get an evo then i was thinking about it as an everyday car.. i wonder if it would last past 100k millage. And I'm also curious how often i would have to change things such as brake pads..clutch disc..etc.
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EVO Vs. STi
The Evo has more pure performance than the STI and will outperform STI's in every category (0-60, 1/4 mile, top speed, cornering, braking-same brake hardware, go figure). Not sure about the 07's - we own both a 06 STI and a 06 MR. The MR is more powerful and precise than the STI. We like the STI too. My Evo has some mods and the STI is stock but my car was recently all stock and would still beat the STI in straight line performance. The STI is has nice low end torque but no top end because it's got a small turbo for a 2.5ltr, where the Evo's turbo is sized right for a 2.0 liter. The 4G63 is a proven block that has made over 1000hp and can make close to 500hp on stock internals. Also, its not that they just turned up the boost on the 4G63, the engine is designed for high boost. The Suby's 2.5ltr block has more displacement and lots of low end torque but it cannot match the performance of the 4G63 stock or otherwise (Yet?). Take yer pick though, they are both cool cars and the performance differences are small. When you drive the 2 cars the similarites seem to fade away and you realize you are in two completely different machines with different handling characteristics and powerbands. If I had to get just one all over again,.. a WW IX SE would be my choice.
Ultimately, the 4G63 is a better motor for two reasons: 1) A cast-iron block that won't blow up, and 2) A better cylinder head design that will outrev the EJ25, and typically the EJ20 as well. Also, the EJ motors tend to have blow-by issues with pressure leaking from the crankcase and making a big mess.
Anytime you ask a question like this on a car-specific site, you'll get a bunch of people talking about how great their cars are because they're passionate about them. But, that doesn't make it the best vehicle on earth...Just their favorite! The EVO has a few advantages in this case, as well as the STi. But they are each the same weight, all-wheel drive, Japanese, turbo-charged, 4-cylinder, six-speed (MR), and even the wheel/tire/braking combos are nearly identical. Of course, I don't own either - I just try to keep informed and I look at dynos any chance I get.
Oh...This was a test-post.
I've owned them both.. 04' sti and 06 IX MR. Take your pick they both are awesome and both have advantages. I would take my STi out through the dirt and drift it... lots of off road potential. The EVO i keep on the street and don't like taking it off road.
Test drive them both and find out which is for you.
Test drive them both and find out which is for you.
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but can anyone help me answer this because just trying to make sure.
It def. would, there are already people on here who have close to that, as long as you maintain it, change all the approp. fluids and oil at 2500, and dont track it everyday stock, it should be fine to 100K no problem.
Isn't it a bit out of line to say that the EVO and STi are so significantly different in such categories? Clearly, the STi has a powerband that's shifted down versus the 4G63 motor...But it is VERY torquey. Of course, torque is best used in daily-driving and in-gear acceleration, while horsepower/top-end power is most effective in acceleration over long distances and higher speeds due to gear ratio spread. They don't test significantly different stock vs. stock in handling or in acceleration, with the IX MR running about 13.3-13.6 at only 103-105 MPH and the STi sometimes being a tenth or two slower but around the the same trap speed. With just an exhaust setup and reflash, the STi can make well over 300 pound-feet at the wheels on 93 octane and it peaks low...At around 3300 RPM. Sure, it falls on it's face at 5500 RPM, but it can be really nice not to have to rev to 7000 RPM to get through traffic, or to wait for 20 pounds of boost to make full effect.
Ultimately, the 4G63 is a better motor for two reasons: 1) A cast-iron block that won't blow up, and 2) A better cylinder head design that will outrev the EJ25, and typically the EJ20 as well. Also, the EJ motors tend to have blow-by issues with pressure leaking from the crankcase and making a big mess.
Anytime you ask a question like this on a car-specific site, you'll get a bunch of people talking about how great their cars are because they're passionate about them. But, that doesn't make it the best vehicle on earth...Just their favorite! The EVO has a few advantages in this case, as well as the STi. But they are each the same weight, all-wheel drive, Japanese, turbo-charged, 4-cylinder, six-speed (MR), and even the wheel/tire/braking combos are nearly identical. Of course, I don't own either - I just try to keep informed and I look at dynos any chance I get.
Oh...This was a test-post.
Ultimately, the 4G63 is a better motor for two reasons: 1) A cast-iron block that won't blow up, and 2) A better cylinder head design that will outrev the EJ25, and typically the EJ20 as well. Also, the EJ motors tend to have blow-by issues with pressure leaking from the crankcase and making a big mess.
Anytime you ask a question like this on a car-specific site, you'll get a bunch of people talking about how great their cars are because they're passionate about them. But, that doesn't make it the best vehicle on earth...Just their favorite! The EVO has a few advantages in this case, as well as the STi. But they are each the same weight, all-wheel drive, Japanese, turbo-charged, 4-cylinder, six-speed (MR), and even the wheel/tire/braking combos are nearly identical. Of course, I don't own either - I just try to keep informed and I look at dynos any chance I get.
Oh...This was a test-post.
well my friend..my EVO made over 300 pounds with a little engine management and exhaust itself...and is far as waiting on the turbo to spool to get full 20 pounds of boost..that is ridiculous...the EVO turbo is small enough to produce full spool up and torque by 3300 RPMs, and never stop pulling till 7000(well with my BC set to 20psi). . . either way...the STIs around here know better than to mess with an EVO with any type of mods, even when they have the same mods, but I will still admit it is buyer's choice when it comes down to it...I know I did not bother to even test drive the STI bc it looks like a Disney World ride or something, and I waited on this EVO to make it to the states 4EVER!! anyways, enjoy whicheva one u choose as it is a tuner's world out there.
now as far as the clutch, bro most people have only gotten around 10-25K out of their stock clutches...some bc people daeg the crap out of their cars,others that cant drive, and others simply bc Mitsu put a weak clutch in the Evo, but that better than the transfer case going out....as far as brakes, bout the same as any car, but you will spend twice as much to have them replaced...dont forget bout tires though as well, as the stockers will only last you 10 to 15K and are 1000 a set...plus new spark plugs with every oil change(10 bucks, no biggie), and synthetic oil, which I would do in any car anywho...hope this helps..continue to keep asking ?s as needed....
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The Evo has more pure performance than the STI and will outperform STI's in every category (0-60, 1/4 mile, top speed, cornering, braking-same brake hardware, go figure). Not sure about the 07's - we own both a 06 STI and a 06 MR. The MR is more powerful and precise than the STI. We like the STI too. My Evo has some mods and the STI is stock but my car was recently all stock and would still beat the STI in straight line performance. The STI is has nice low end torque but no top end because it's got a small turbo for a 2.5ltr, where the Evo's turbo is sized right for a 2.0 liter. The 4G63 is a proven block that has made over 1000hp and can make close to 500hp on stock internals. Also, its not that they just turned up the boost on the 4G63, the engine is designed for high boost. The Suby's 2.5ltr block has more displacement and lots of low end torque but it cannot match the performance of the 4G63 stock or otherwise (Yet?). Take yer pick though, they are both cool cars and the performance differences are small. When you drive the 2 cars the similarites seem to fade away and you realize you are in two completely different machines with different handling characteristics and powerbands. If I had to get just one all over again,.. a WW IX SE would be my choice.
now as far as the clutch, bro most people have only gotten around 10-25K out of their stock clutches...some bc people daeg the crap out of their cars,others that cant drive, and others simply bc Mitsu put a weak clutch in the Evo, but that better than the transfer case going out....as far as brakes, bout the same as any car, but you will spend twice as much to have them replaced...dont forget bout tires though as well, as the stockers will only last you 10 to 15K and are 1000 a set...plus new spark plugs with every oil change(10 bucks, no biggie), and synthetic oil, which I would do in any car anywho...hope this helps..continue to keep asking ?s as needed....
New spark pluggs every oil change? only 15k out of the tires? I'm pushing over 15k now and have about 70% tread left.
as for the clutch it is still strong not like brand new but still grips really strong.
Synthetic Oil you can go 5,000 miles per oil change in to stay in line with the
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this questions have been debated over and over and overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. no one could really tell what you should buy bro. Your best bet is you test drive both and see what fit you. Just because someone tell you to buy it, you don't go out and buy one. This is a BIAS evo forum. So you answer going to to be evooooooooo.