First in Line?
First in Line?
Hello everyone. I am glad to see that there is so much attention
and wild anticipation for a vehicle that most of us have only seen
on Speedvision/channel or on video games. As I am a Mitsubishi
salesperson, I hope I will be able to be one of the first to get my
hands on a GSR. Make mine black, and I hope they can keep
the FMIC! Then I can sit back and wait for all the BMW, Subaru,
Porsche, etc. trade ins while people clamor to get this car!
Good luck.
I'll see you in December.
David
Glad to be here.
FMIC stands for Front Mount InterCooler. It is what
I want to put on my Eclispe one day, and it is what
is already on the JDM (Japanese Direct Market)
Evolution. To meet our crash standards , the bumper
design may have to be changed and the USDM
Evolution may have to use a side mount intercooler
like on my Eclipse. By having it there to start off
with will mean one less upgrade to shell out for, or
larger upgrades eaiser to install.
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I dont really get the whole FMIC - crashtest thing.
If the IC is front mounted and the front of the car hits something at enough speed, the IC will break.
If they put the IC somewhere else, then something else will break (radiator, A/C, etc). What's the point?
If the IC is front mounted and the front of the car hits something at enough speed, the IC will break.
If they put the IC somewhere else, then something else will break (radiator, A/C, etc). What's the point?
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I agree with claudius on the FMIC/crash test issue. I think it has just been an excuse. Look at a MINI some time the entire intake manifold is only 5 inches behind the front bumper. If the US doesn't get the fmic it will be a cost cutting measure.
erik
erik
Re: Trade Ins?
Originally posted by D$
Hmm, do you think people will be trading in WRXen for the Evo? I guess it depends on final specs?
Hmm, do you think people will be trading in WRXen for the Evo? I guess it depends on final specs?
Personally I think the Evo is a better overall car than the STI, but then again I haven't been driving around a Subaru for the past couple years. I'd bet that a lot of the Scooby owners will just wait for the STI.
Hooby
Well, there've been quite a few comparisons overseas between the Evo VII and the WRX STi. It pretty much boils down to a matter of preferences. (My interpretation of the reivews of course)
1/4 mile and 0-60 speed is a wash according to all I've read. The interior of the STi is much nicer than the Evo 7, if you're into that. The biggest factor, according to every review I've read, is how they drive. Evo7 is much more responsive on the road, STi understeers a bit much. The Sti (like my WRX) front end lifts way off the ground when you accellerate hard. Basically, the Evo seems more tuned for the track and the STi is more tuned for dirt.
The "word on the street" is that the Evo is faster, but Subaru has a much better dependability record for their tuned models than mits dues. I've heard quite a fiew GT and Eclipse maintenance horror stories lately. Thats rumor and conjecture though.
If the US specs end up being exact same as the JDM specs, I'd take the STi because I like the way it looks and I love the interior. Just my .02
1/4 mile and 0-60 speed is a wash according to all I've read. The interior of the STi is much nicer than the Evo 7, if you're into that. The biggest factor, according to every review I've read, is how they drive. Evo7 is much more responsive on the road, STi understeers a bit much. The Sti (like my WRX) front end lifts way off the ground when you accellerate hard. Basically, the Evo seems more tuned for the track and the STi is more tuned for dirt.
The "word on the street" is that the Evo is faster, but Subaru has a much better dependability record for their tuned models than mits dues. I've heard quite a fiew GT and Eclipse maintenance horror stories lately. Thats rumor and conjecture though.
If the US specs end up being exact same as the JDM specs, I'd take the STi because I like the way it looks and I love the interior. Just my .02
Scooby don't!!!!
Guys,
before I got my hands on the Evo, I was offered a Suba-who with a Prodrive exhaust and ECU for a claimed 290 HP... Now, I was in the scooby but today I am driving the Evo... The scooby, even with the mods, could not touch me! And I'm still in stock form!
before I got my hands on the Evo, I was offered a Suba-who with a Prodrive exhaust and ECU for a claimed 290 HP... Now, I was in the scooby but today I am driving the Evo... The scooby, even with the mods, could not touch me! And I'm still in stock form!
>> The scooby, even with the mods, could not touch me! And I'm still in stock form!
So, what exactly are you claiming here? That a 280bhp evo is faster than a 290bhp WRX? WRX Sti? JDM spec? UK Spec? Euro Spec?
No offense, but I'll believe the repeatable tests of known automotive magazines with quantifiable results and professional drivers over street racing stories any day. People on i-Club with WRXen post similar stories all the time, example "Hey I wasted a 2002 M3 with my WRX" and I laugh at them.
So, what exactly are you claiming here? That a 280bhp evo is faster than a 290bhp WRX? WRX Sti? JDM spec? UK Spec? Euro Spec?
No offense, but I'll believe the repeatable tests of known automotive magazines with quantifiable results and professional drivers over street racing stories any day. People on i-Club with WRXen post similar stories all the time, example "Hey I wasted a 2002 M3 with my WRX" and I laugh at them.
Crash tests and intercoolers
You are probably right. Why would an intercooler cause
a car to fail a crash test? It probably doesn't. But another
thing a manufacturer looks at is how much it costs to fix
a car when it is involved in a relatively minor accident.
The insurance companies are probably all ready to go in
ripping us to shreds on premiums, what we don't need to
do is add fuel to their fire by making a car that has $3-$6000
dollars worth of potential damage in something so minor as
a 5 mile per hour frontal impact. Montero sales are suffering
right now because of what CU did to us in rollover testing
(they underinflated the tires, put long heavy beams
on the side to "protect the driver in case of roll over" and weaved
the truck so hard its rims cut into the asphalt and, LO AND BEHOLD,
they were able to get it to tip up on two wheels - imagine that)
Also the backdoor can be severly damaged by the rear tire if it is backed
into something. Plus, it really needs a V8 IMO, but thats another story.
Anyway, Monteros are not a huge factor for us, whereas Montero Sports
fly off the lot.
As far as posting specs, anything that doesn't say "CONFIDENTIAL" on
it, I don't mind posting...however, the downside to that is, it's probably
stuff anybody could get their hands on.




