Oil Filter
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Oil Filter
Good day fellow EvoM members- I now will query your intelligence with a stoopid question.I have never really thought about this but the odometer says it's time to change oil. I have always ALWAYS used Fram oil filters in all my other cars and they have never failed, just a habit that dear old dad has instilled in me since I was a kid. For example, I learned fractions before I was in school because he had me fetching wrenches for him while he was under the car on a cardboard mat in the garage.
Well, I bought an evo, and I am going to do things as I should and research all options before I buy but do I stick with the OEM filter that I have to get at the dealer or can I go with Mobil1's filter available at most auto parts stores? I was wondering if anyone else has had experience with other filters rather than OEM and if there was any difference in the oil at the next change?? All help is appreciated and welcome
Search instead of bumping. And stop using Fram while you're at it. Use the Mobil 1 part number M1-108. The OEM filter is weak compared to almost anything out there. MMNA dealerships no longer have the same oil filters that the Evo's come with. It's stupid and has been covered many many many times. The people who still use the OEM oil filter are the ones who bought the filter with the old part number in bulk before it became hard to find or people who are using the new part number and don't know any better.
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thanks!!
Pop was the one who told me Fram and none other- he also said Champoin Plugs and none other- Different strokes I guess
He is the head staff Engineer for Goodyear so he might know a little something
Pop was the one who told me Fram and none other- he also said Champoin Plugs and none other- Different strokes I guess
He is the head staff Engineer for Goodyear so he might know a little something
Search instead of bumping. And stop using Fram while you're at it. Use the Mobil 1 part number M1-108. The OEM filter is weak compared to almost anything out there. MMNA dealerships no longer have the same oil filters that the Evo's come with. It's stupid and has been covered many many many times. The people who still use the OEM oil filter are the ones who bought the filter with the old part number in bulk before it became hard to find or people who are using the new part number and don't know any better.
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The Fram filters have been shown to start to fall apart in harsh conditions which deposits pieces of the filter element into the oil and can cause damage to the engine. I have been using K&N in my ES, haven't had any problems with it (other than the fact that is costs $13).
M1-110 will fit, but it's longer than the M1-108. Since these mount upside down on the vehicle, you do run the risk of bottoming out and puncturing the M1-108.
Both the M1-108 and M1-110 will appear skinnier and longer than the stock filter, though. It's alright. The seal fits the same.
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I personally use the stock oil filter. reason being is that the relief valve in the stock filter is THE CORRECT PRESSURE for our turbo cars. fram is one of the worst...read below...
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
an excerp from the site
this is from the PH8A filter and may NOT be true for other fram filters. but in any case, this alone would not entice me to purchase a FRAM filter.
hope that helps a little...
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
an excerp from the site
this is from the PH8A filter and may NOT be true for other fram filters. but in any case, this alone would not entice me to purchase a FRAM filter.
The rubber anti-drainback valve seals the rough metal backplate to the cardboard end cap and easily leaks, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan. If you have a noisy valve train at startup, this filter is likely the cause. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak. The backplate has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow.
the purolator PURE 1 seems to do very well if you cant get the stock filter...
Pure One PL30001
This filter has a few improvements over the Premium Plus. It has a denser synthetic filter media to filter out smaller particles and more surface area to make up for the flow restriction. Aside from those the cartridge is the same construction as the Premium Plus.
The filter cartridge has an even more impressive surface area of 400 sqin. The potential issue is that this filter element is compressed into even more pleats (64) than the Premium Plus. This may restrict flow more than it helps relieve it, but it is hard to say for sure. It also features a spring-loaded metal bypass valve and a silicone rubber diaphram-type anti-drainback valve, which doubles as the seal between the backplate and the cartridge. The bypass valve is located at the base of the cartridge, not at the top.
This filter has a few improvements over the Premium Plus. It has a denser synthetic filter media to filter out smaller particles and more surface area to make up for the flow restriction. Aside from those the cartridge is the same construction as the Premium Plus.
The filter cartridge has an even more impressive surface area of 400 sqin. The potential issue is that this filter element is compressed into even more pleats (64) than the Premium Plus. This may restrict flow more than it helps relieve it, but it is hard to say for sure. It also features a spring-loaded metal bypass valve and a silicone rubber diaphram-type anti-drainback valve, which doubles as the seal between the backplate and the cartridge. The bypass valve is located at the base of the cartridge, not at the top.
i used those (purolator) on my 2g gst and didnt have any problems. However, when i could no longer get them, i used a fram filter and had a valve train chatter problem. went back to using the Mitsu filter-problem went away....
Was this before or after 2004? The reason I ask is because Mitsu changed their oil filter design both internally and externally in 2004. There were tons of threads that talk about this, and about how the "new and improved" Mitsu oil filter has little more than some plastic string inside all balled up and kinda looking like some blue steel wool. Yep. I'd stay away from that kind of junk.
I have been using Purolator Pure1, which beat out Mobil 1 filters on flow test and oil capacity and its ability to filter debris.
I used to be a Mobil 1 fan...until I found out about Purolator Pure 1.
Some applications even have a small magnet inside to capture metal debris.
Pure1 =
I used to be a Mobil 1 fan...until I found out about Purolator Pure 1.
Some applications even have a small magnet inside to capture metal debris.
Pure1 =
Was this before or after 2004? The reason I ask is because Mitsu changed their oil filter design both internally and externally in 2004. There were tons of threads that talk about this, and about how the "new and improved" Mitsu oil filter has little more than some plastic string inside all balled up and kinda looking like some blue steel wool. Yep. I'd stay away from that kind of junk.