hmmm

there are so many turbos that would work....

if you just want a stock appearing turbo then go with a RED or GREEN turbo...

But if you are going to want more power than that, why not just buy a full turbo kit now?

I know easier said than done but I was in the same delema but I just saved for another month and I knew what I wanted. If the 850R turbo kit was available at the time I bought mine, I would have bought that in a heartbeat but I do a lot of roll racing and drag.....

My 50 trim was a great kit because it hit the power level I wanted and was a great spooling turbo.

There are many options out there I think you may really need to think ahead before jumping into something.....

Do you wanna run race gas? You wanna run straight e-85? Do you mind a bit of lag to gain the power up top?

A lot of things to take into concideration

 

Not only you need a turbo kit, you'll need to build your bottom end if you want it to last more than couple passes of high 10's.

I know there's few greens that have gone into 10's but I believe that was with race gas.

If you wanna stick with pump+meth, you'll need 35r or bigger, cams, bigger injectors, and most importantly built bottom end and clutch to handle the power.

If you want a streetable 10sec car, it will cost you alot more than 6k.

 

That would be 1/4 mile...theres a dragways 5 mins from my hosue we usually hangout there on friday night id like to have my car there with making impressive runs....

 

Well whats the best u think i can get outta my stock block stock heads and still have a decent car that i can drive 2 shows/ meets/ and not have to worry about it blowin up...

 

Generally, people don't go over 500whp on stock block.

But there are people with 300whp blowing up motors left and right and over 550whp on stock block with no problems.

It's the risk you'll ultimately have to take.
You can make your decision based on that.

Bottom line is you need 35r or bigger.

 

get all the mods you need first...dont just throw a big turbo on without the supporting mods....look in to cams, clutch, etc, etc first

 

Oh the clutch will def come with the whole thing while whoever is setting my car up ill be puttin a clutch in also...Cam/ cam gears dont know how i want to go about with that route..its a long rong and many "y"s in the road im sure wherever i take it to get the work done they will recomend the best for me....

 

Yeah i was told that by another dsm buddy but i think with just under 500 hp and head studs i think the car will run great with a good tune and the reason ppl are blowin there cars up with 300 hp is b.c some ppl like to add parts and turn boost wayyyyyy up and think its cool without a tune and boom not the way to go i was always told and im sure u guys know u gotta be smart about how and why u do things you do to your car....

 

I agree.

You might be aiming for a streetable car that, well, runs 10s, but truth is I have found that after building my Supra, streetable is a term used to define its main purpose. Expect that you will have problems regaurdless of your aspirations, and goals. Your best bet for making good RELIABLE power is to find modifications that compliment one another. This makes sense for why many forum memebers tend to become brand loyal.

By sticking with a certain company, you begin alleviating certain varibles and gain greater control over the power your putting down.

You can not go wrong with a Buschur kit, or an AMS kit, or even a Full Race or ETS turbo kit. Yes their prices vary substantially, but let's be honest here, if your only goal is to make a streetable 10 sec (that's not a 93-98 supra) your going to be spending as much on the build as you are on the kit - more than likely it will cost more than your turbo of choice.

A 10 sec, daily driven Evo, with a stock bottom end, is an unusual occurence, although, not impossible at all. If I was going to attempt, what you want, on my EVO I'd rebuild both the lower, and upper ends of the engine, stuff a AMS 850 on it, and have the remaining drive line beefed up.

Remember once you've gotten all your mods on, driving the car efficently can mean many attempts to be required. AMS and Buschur are where they are now, because they do this sort of stuff for a living. Don't think a big turbo and a build is going to all the sudden sling shot you into the 10s.

 

Head studs def. helps. But don't think good tune will shield you from blowing up your motor.

When you're making excess of 500whp on stock block, you are asking for trouble and you have to be prepared for it.

 

EXACTLY!!

On a stock block, w/ 500+hp, it's really a matter of when the stock internals will take crap.

It;s like a zit waiting to be popped, it's all a matter of time.

 

In that case I would probably go with an FP Red, and full supporting mods (intake mani, good FMIC, cams, etc.).

l8r)

 

Remember once you've gotten all your mods on, driving the car efficently can mean many attempts to be required. AMS and Buschur are where they are now, because they do this sort of stuff for a living. Don't think a big turbo and a build is going to all the sudden sling shot you into the 10s.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] Well yea i know its gonna be hard but i want to do it...its not gonna be a daily maybe a weekend car or friday night i have a dakota r/t for the daily....but yea i know thats what they do for a living and im not thinkin im gonna be able to put a big turbo and a build and it will put me in the tens i know theres alot that goes along with it....

 

Lol im not expecting 500 hp out of jsut putting a turbo kit on if anything w. the kit and a tune maybe around 400 and i know the bottom end is capable of holding a little over 400 and when it dose "pop like a zit" then its time for a build...but you cant tell me you fully built your motor then put a turbo kit on it...everyone ive heard of unless ur wiping ur *** with money ur not gonna throw ur perfectly fine 4g63 w. 30k on it away....

 

Well, allow me to introduce you ... to myself, cuz that's exactly what I did, and I can assure you I don't wipe my *** with cash (still hoping to get to that point, though).

When I installed an AMS turbo kit, I also had them build the internals. At the time I had just enough cash to cover it, and I figured better safe than sorry, even though the initial setup only made about 370whp. Having a 9100 RPM fuel cut helps for road racing, too, though.

l8r)