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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Gains from only a DP and TP?

Tried searching, but what would the gains be from just a 3" downpipe and testpipe mated with the stock IX exhaust?

I know having a full TBE is best but I'm strapped for cash right now and this seems to be the cheapest exhaust upgrade for the time being.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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i was also wondering about this. Just installed a dp and tp on my evo9. boost comes quicker but I cant really feel much power difference. Besides the slight fluttering noise, its quiet as stock. No exhaust leak, hoping the sound is normal after the upgrade.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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A test pipe is one of the best mods for the money. Number two would be a MBC. For $200 you should see 30whp with both of these mods.

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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nicolas916
i was also wondering about this. Just installed a dp and tp on my evo9. boost comes quicker but I cant really feel much power difference. Besides the slight fluttering noise, its quiet as stock. No exhaust leak, hoping the sound is normal after the upgrade.
Do you have an MBC yet?

Originally Posted by Jim in Tucson
A test pipe is one of the best mods for the money. Number two would be a MBC. For $200 you should see 30whp with both of these mods.

I was planning on installing the downpipe and test pipe with a hallman. Are you saying that just a test pipe and a MBC will net you around 30hp?
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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I would think that you would see some gains but it would be minimal because you are still restricting your DP and TP with the stock catback piping. Stock catback piping is smaller in diameter and has some nasty bends to restrict airflow even more.

I have also heard that your exhaust system will only flow as well as its weakest link, which also makes sense. Which means that you wont be making any gains at all with that stock catback.

I'm not sure which theory to believe exactly because they both make sense.. But I'd like to think you made some minimal gains.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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have a hallman mbc with a mail in flash. 20psi to redline. Personally i dont really feel much power difference with stock. I should get the car on a dyno.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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MaxKanisha is right, Leaving the stock cat back would choke up whatever gain you made with the DP and TP.

Free flowing from turbo back is what you are trying to do, think of it as a busy highway going from a 4 lanes to a two lane, regardless of where along the line it happened, it's gonna create traffic.

If anything, you want the furthest part (from the engine) of your exhaust to be the least restrictive part of the system, not the other way around.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax199
... If anything, you want the furthest part (from the engine) of your exhaust to be the least restrictive part of the system, not the other way around.
Well said!
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax199
MaxKanisha is right, Leaving the stock cat back would choke up whatever gain you made with the DP and TP.

Free flowing from turbo back is what you are trying to do, think of it as a busy highway going from a 4 lanes to a two lane, regardless of where along the line it happened, it's gonna create traffic.

If anything, you want the furthest part (from the engine) of your exhaust to be the least restrictive part of the system, not the other way around.
haha, well I kinda knew this much already . I guess what my real question should have been was will i notice anything with the butt dyno? Someone already said they didn't notice anything though. damn...
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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If you notice anything at all, it'll be very minimal.. Why dont you go catback end first?
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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I know of an Evo that is stock with just a bov, test pipe, and tune. Dyno's around 300whp
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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do it or jus wait to buy a complete tbe kit...

buy Megan racing or hell even the ebay tbe

better to have one whole kit rather than jus piecing together one makes life easier

i was like you once haha... i bought the DownPipe and TestPipe and jus ran them open till i bought a catback haha
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo Tengoku
I know of an Evo that is stock with just a bov, test pipe, and tune. Dyno's around 300whp
I'm guessing on a dyno jet? And why would a BOV be needed?
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKanisha
I'm guessing on a dyno jet? And why would a BOV be needed?
because the plastic VIII valves leak
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax199
MaxKanisha is right, Leaving the stock cat back would choke up whatever gain you made with the DP and TP.

Free flowing from turbo back is what you are trying to do, think of it as a busy highway going from a 4 lanes to a two lane, regardless of where along the line it happened, it's gonna create traffic.

If anything, you want the furthest part (from the engine) of your exhaust to be the least restrictive part of the system, not the other way around.
yes. I know this is true. Im currently in the market for a quiet 3" catback. I hope this will satisfy my butt dyno without attracting the police.
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