Just picked up my Evo, need a little help!
Dismiss crankwalk thought. Old problem from DSM cars, hasn't been seen in years.
Replace BOV, and see how it performs. Althought this may be annoying, you have to start somewhere.
Shawn
Replace BOV, and see how it performs. Althought this may be annoying, you have to start somewhere.
Shawn
Ive had vacuum and boost leak tests done on it, specifically at the BOV and they havent shown to be a problem, or is it the BOV specicfically that would be causing it and not a leak.
Given, they might actually be right. This was OCCASSIONALLY a symptom of crankwalk, but the most common symptom of crankwalk (from the old DSM's) were:
1.Fast ticking noise when you push in the clutch (it's also RPM sensitive)
2.After making a hard left turn, the clutch pedal loses hydraulic pressure and won't come back out unless you pull it back out with your foot.
3.Shifting is hard at random times.
If this is really the case, you're looking at either a full rebuild, or replacement of a shortblock.
My suggestion (worth far less than $0.02) is to ask the shop for what makes them know it's crankwalk, and if its "experience", then I'd at least replace the BOV with a stock BOV and drive the car before I committed to that. There's very little further damage you can cause by driving it for a little while with the problem. Additionally, in all honesty, I haven't heard any EVO owner complain of crankwalk. Usually the block/bearing failures are either catastrophic, or at least obvious bearing failures, rather than the subtle "crankwalk" problems that were known on the 90's era DSM's. While I can see it could happen again, the bottom end of the 4G63 has been fairly bulletproof since Chrysler and Mitsu figured this out in the 90's. Anyway, you have my sympathy if it is indeed crankwalk.
Shawn
Unless they've disassembled the block and seen the bearings, or unless they can demonstrate that the crank is moving by using the "crowbar trick", they're just guessing.
Given, they might actually be right. This was OCCASSIONALLY a symptom of crankwalk, but the most common symptom of crankwalk (from the old DSM's) were:
1.Fast ticking noise when you push in the clutch (it's also RPM sensitive)
2.After making a hard left turn, the clutch pedal loses hydraulic pressure and won't come back out unless you pull it back out with your foot.
3.Shifting is hard at random times.
If this is really the case, you're looking at either a full rebuild, or replacement of a shortblock.
My suggestion (worth far less than $0.02) is to ask the shop for what makes them know it's crankwalk, and if its "experience", then I'd at least replace the BOV with a stock BOV and drive the car before I committed to that. There's very little further damage you can cause by driving it for a little while with the problem. Additionally, in all honesty, I haven't heard any EVO owner complain of crankwalk. Usually the block/bearing failures are either catastrophic, or at least obvious bearing failures, rather than the subtle "crankwalk" problems that were known on the 90's era DSM's. While I can see it could happen again, the bottom end of the 4G63 has been fairly bulletproof since Chrysler and Mitsu figured this out in the 90's. Anyway, you have my sympathy if it is indeed crankwalk.
Shawn
Given, they might actually be right. This was OCCASSIONALLY a symptom of crankwalk, but the most common symptom of crankwalk (from the old DSM's) were:
1.Fast ticking noise when you push in the clutch (it's also RPM sensitive)
2.After making a hard left turn, the clutch pedal loses hydraulic pressure and won't come back out unless you pull it back out with your foot.
3.Shifting is hard at random times.
If this is really the case, you're looking at either a full rebuild, or replacement of a shortblock.
My suggestion (worth far less than $0.02) is to ask the shop for what makes them know it's crankwalk, and if its "experience", then I'd at least replace the BOV with a stock BOV and drive the car before I committed to that. There's very little further damage you can cause by driving it for a little while with the problem. Additionally, in all honesty, I haven't heard any EVO owner complain of crankwalk. Usually the block/bearing failures are either catastrophic, or at least obvious bearing failures, rather than the subtle "crankwalk" problems that were known on the 90's era DSM's. While I can see it could happen again, the bottom end of the 4G63 has been fairly bulletproof since Chrysler and Mitsu figured this out in the 90's. Anyway, you have my sympathy if it is indeed crankwalk.
Shawn
Also when you press the clutch in you can see the main pulleys move almost 30MM.
i would be contacting the seller about a possible lawsuit if he doesnt want to help you with the problem. He must have known it before he sold it. Did you buy from someone on here? I would tell the previous owner whats up with the car and see how he wants to handle it, if he says too bad, then thats when i would tell him i am looking at getting a lawyer and see what he says. you can file a small claims lawsuit against him in his own state but i think you will have to be there in court when the suit goes through. this sucks for you because this guy obviously knew what was goin on and doesnt sound like hes a upstanding type of guy to sell a car with this kind of problem. Hope he's not a evom member, im sure he would get grilled on here
i would be contacting the seller about a possible lawsuit if he doesnt want to help you with the problem. He must have known it before he sold it. Did you buy from someone on here? I would tell the previous owner whats up with the car and see how he wants to handle it, if he says too bad, then thats when i would tell him i am looking at getting a lawyer and see what he says. you can file a small claims lawsuit against him in his own state but i think you will have to be there in court when the suit goes through. this sucks for you because this guy obviously knew what was goin on and doesnt sound like hes a upstanding type of guy to sell a car with this kind of problem. Hope he's not a evom member, im sure he would get grilled on here
Wasn't this present on test drive? (not trying to be ugly, just wondering).
If you got a "really good deal" on an EVO, you can mark the discount up to what it's going to take to fix it. If so, then I'd take the opportunity to do this:
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...67a86bcc5b7979
Unless the shop you have can rebuild the shortblock cheaper and better than this, this is your best bet, but of course there's install and tuning costs involved as well.
I wish you luck, and you have my sympathy.
Shawn
you need to check with a lawyer from that state about there state laws on selling a car in this condition. even though it says "as is", that state might not allow a vehicle in that condition to be sold that way. where i live in wi , IL can get away with things on selling a car that wi cant. so i would def check into the laws in that state
Pulley movement is diagnostic, the shop is right. I'm really sorry.
Wasn't this present on test drive? (not trying to be ugly, just wondering).
If you got a "really good deal" on an EVO, you can mark the discount up to what it's going to take to fix it. If so, then I'd take the opportunity to do this:
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...67a86bcc5b7979
Unless the shop you have can rebuild the shortblock cheaper and better than this, this is your best bet, but of course there's install and tuning costs involved as well.
I wish you luck, and you have my sympathy.
Shawn
Wasn't this present on test drive? (not trying to be ugly, just wondering).
If you got a "really good deal" on an EVO, you can mark the discount up to what it's going to take to fix it. If so, then I'd take the opportunity to do this:
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...67a86bcc5b7979
Unless the shop you have can rebuild the shortblock cheaper and better than this, this is your best bet, but of course there's install and tuning costs involved as well.
I wish you luck, and you have my sympathy.
Shawn


