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Old Jun 29, 2009, 04:28 AM
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my personal opinion for your goal thats pretty low hp you can get those numbers easily on a evo 8 get your intake manny and throttle body ported for one. hotside of the turbo or in fact a turbo upgrade and your set. if you going to run meth i say only do it on a built motor and at that point its not needed
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Originally Posted by EvoTio
Well you have a IX and the op has an VIII, you can attain better horsepower figures with your stock cams and MIVEC.

To the op, with some good tuning, you'll reach your goal. If you use your water/alcohol injection, you'll definitely surpass your goal. Just make sure you use a good failsafe with your injection system if you go that route.
I would believe that the bigger IX turbo hotside would allow for larger gains than IX cams or MIVEC. He also stated he has an IX turbo so the only real difference is the hotside, cams (which he states he's going to put in 272's) and MIVEC really...

MIVEC should not be confused with the power increase VTEC gives Hondas.


I really think with larger injectors and all the items he's throwing on his car, with a great tune it's not impossible without meth. You don't need to port anything, just get a good tuner.

Originally Posted by Boostfiend
Methanol destroyed my first motor. I would never ever run it again I suggest you save the extra hundreds and purchase an FPred.


Methanol did not destroy your motor, the tune applied to your car running it more than likely did.

There are 1000's of cars running meth that are running strong and no issues.

PEBKAC!

Originally Posted by Mitsutech56
I've seen plenty of 360-390 hp evos without meth. Find a good tuner.
+1000

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Old Jun 29, 2009, 05:13 AM
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Oh ok compsci there are also thousands of cars running meth that have blown up with proper tunes. So before we go into the numbers game how about we supply evidence that it's the tune Ns not the cooling agent. Some shops won't install meth at all.
Old Jun 29, 2009, 05:19 AM
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My brothers Evo 8(60,000 miles), never beat on, made 375 wheel. Here is what he had done....

AMS frount mount

apr head studs(thicker head gasket also installed.)

272 cams (can't recall whick cams he used, ill get back to you on that one)

Buscher Turbo back exhaust gutted cat

injen intake kit with upper and lower intercooler piping

Big Al Dynoflashed tuned on 93 oct

cant recall the boost level.

He did it all on the stock 8 turbo, ran smooth as stock 372 whp no meth
Old Jun 29, 2009, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Boostfiend
Oh ok compsci there are also thousands of cars running meth that have blown up with proper tunes. So before we go into the numbers game how about we supply evidence that it's the tune Ns not the cooling agent. Some shops won't install meth at all.
Hes right meth itself DID NOT blow up your motor. Bad tune, user error, or lack of failsafes did.

I had an aquamist kit on my last car and it made 414 whp and 430 ft lbs of torque for a year before I sold my car. Now I plan on putting another kit in my new evo.
Old Jun 29, 2009, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
get a real meth kit, don't go Aem.
Yes we have seen many failures of the AEM meth kit. You get what you pay for, and in many cases its a hydrolocked engine.
Old Jun 29, 2009, 10:46 AM
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To the OP what year evo 8 do you have? I really don't think you need meth with your setup just a real good tuner but that depends on the turbo you have. The reason why Evo 9's make more hp is beccause they have a bigger turbo and the MIVEC head and tuning. To all the naysayers on meth. Meth is a great addition to an engine setup. But when running meth I think because the fluid is volitile and can damage your engine if not setup and tuned properly. I also don't think people need and should run meth all the time. I feel meth should be for the street run or grudge match you may have and of coarse for the track. But to just commute to work, school, or the gym 91-93 is all you need. I plan on running the Aqaumist HFS-6 kit hopefully this year and then is only going to be when I go to the track.
Old Jun 29, 2009, 12:05 PM
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im running the aquamist hfs1 kit, and its great
Old Jun 29, 2009, 12:15 PM
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water/meth injection has gotten alot more dependable these past few years in terms of failsafe, so when you feel that you have reached a good amount of hp on pump gas and you know that the next and only thing you can do to give you more power is going to blast your wallet off the face of the earth, then go with the aquamist kit.
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Originally Posted by Mitsutech56
I've seen plenty of 360-390 hp evos without meth. Find a good tuner.
good analogy I posted a thread and my evo made almost 400whp with stock cams and turbo no meth find a good tuner if i use u give dg motors a call..
Old Jun 29, 2009, 02:00 PM
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Meth ftw!!
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In Jersey I would contact Sean @ Iveytune.

Originally Posted by Justin VIII
Ive done my research and ive already picked out a meth kit. This is a pure opinion thread.

I want meth but am not sure if i want to deal with having to worry about it failing and destroying my engine. i plan on running 50/50 meth/water on an AEM kit

i want 365 whp (useable) if i could reach this power level without meth i would, but am not certain i can.

mods-
TBE no cats/res
Walbro 255
BPR8ES
TurboTrix MBC
Injen UICP/LICP/Intake
ETS 3.5" Front mount
Kelford 272/272 cams
Evo 9 Turbo
Ported stock Mani
Ported ebay o2 elbo
ACT street disk/Fidanza flywheel
PTE 780cc injectos

ive searched all over and cant seem to find someone with this setup making power (365whp+) without meth.

would you use meth or do you think i can make the power i want without meth.
please no flaming, i did my research, this is merely asking for opinions
Old Jun 29, 2009, 02:59 PM
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If all your searching for is a #, then throw yor car on a dynojet. You can easily get 365 with your mods. You dont need meth for that.
Old Jun 29, 2009, 04:38 PM
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thanks for all who have contributed to this thread. i want 365whp of usable streatable power, i realize i can make 365 whp on a a dyno and all it will be is a figure.

i have an 03 evo for someone who was asking.

and i was looking at an Ivey tune as well as a Dynoflash tune (al)
Old Jun 29, 2009, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostfiend
Methanol destroyed my first motor. I would never ever run it again I suggest you save the extra hundreds and purchase an FPred.
Love these guys...how did meth destroy your motor?

Originally Posted by Octane Blue
I believe the AEM kit is great.

why are you not referring to it as "a real meth kit?"
What is great about the aem kit? Other than the brand name?



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