Who thinks an SE is worth more than just a regular IX
So tell me this: let's say you are shopping for an IX and came came across a regular GSR and SE. Same mileage, same condition, etc, otherwise identical. The SE is priced at $100 more. You wouldn't pay an extra 100 bucks to have:
• Aluminum roof (lighter weight + lower center of gravity)
• HIDs
• BBS
• Red stitched seats
?
I don't know about you, but for most people, an SE is worth more. How much more depends on the person of course (personally speaking, for a used car, I'd probably be willing to pay up to $1000 more for an SE).
• Aluminum roof (lighter weight + lower center of gravity)
• HIDs
• BBS
• Red stitched seats
?
I don't know about you, but for most people, an SE is worth more. How much more depends on the person of course (personally speaking, for a used car, I'd probably be willing to pay up to $1000 more for an SE).
If I had to guess why the GSR didnt (maybe some did, I dunno), it'd be due to the option of being able to add the SSL package.
Also, the leather on SE and MR SE seats is very much identicle to RS, GSR, and MR seats; the only thing Recaro did different in the manufacturing process of the seats is substitue black thread with red thread for the stitching.
For 2007, the governement started requiring side impact air bags on cars sold in the US. Rather than go through a complicated and costly process of adding side impact airbags to the last year of the CT9A, they decided to import twice as many Evolutions then what the normal import for one year would be so as to provide dealers with cars to sell all through 2006 and 2007.
Just to chime in here, because it's the internet: You can strip any evo down (sans the MR) to make an RS, and the $80.00 OEM trunk bar seals the deal. It's far cheaper to make any non-MR IX into an RS, than the other way around.
My own personal opinion is that the RS is so sought after because its still the cheapest way to get in to an evo. Nothing wrong with that, we all still rock the same motor. Just sayin... I don't see many SE's around, I do get the impression they are somewhat rare. Whenever you see the wheels or seats for an SE go up in the marketplace, they generally fetch a pretty penny really quickly. I think this all adds up to: basically if you know about the Evo, and the diff trims, yes - the SE would be worth more... TO YOU. Dealerships don't care. They just see its not an MR and assume you've been adding mods yourself. my .02
My own personal opinion is that the RS is so sought after because its still the cheapest way to get in to an evo. Nothing wrong with that, we all still rock the same motor. Just sayin... I don't see many SE's around, I do get the impression they are somewhat rare. Whenever you see the wheels or seats for an SE go up in the marketplace, they generally fetch a pretty penny really quickly. I think this all adds up to: basically if you know about the Evo, and the diff trims, yes - the SE would be worth more... TO YOU. Dealerships don't care. They just see its not an MR and assume you've been adding mods yourself. my .02
-Aluminum roof (complicated and costly swap)
-Lack of ABS module (time consuming removal)
-Thinner rear glass (expensive to remove and swap)
-No rear wiper (hole remains when you remove this form a GSR)
-No sound deadening material at all (PITA!!!)
-PAINTED floorboards and trunk area. This isn't a big deal to anyone I think...but me
. I think it's very cool that they take the time to paint the inside of my IX RS white.
Know my 03 does don't see why they would have ever went to steel
The leather on SSL seats is actually the superior one...I'd be hard pressed to say SSL seats wear faster than the leather on non SSL seats.
Also, the leather on SE and MR SE seats is very much identicle to RS, GSR, and MR seats; the only thing Recaro did different in the manufacturing process of the seats is substitue black thread with red thread for the stitching.
Very simple answer to that question.
For 2007, the governement started requiring side impact air bags on cars sold in the US. Rather than go through a complicated and costly process of adding side impact airbags to the last year of the CT9A, they decided to import twice as many Evolutions then what the normal import for one year would be so as to provide dealers with cars to sell all through 2006 and 2007.
I both agree and disagree with your assertion of being able to strip down a GSR into an RS. There's a few little things that truly are not thast easy to do, but they make an RS....an RS.
-Aluminum roof (complicated and costly swap)
-Lack of ABS module (time consuming removal)
-Thinner rear glass (expensive to remove and swap)
-No rear wiper (hole remains when you remove this form a GSR)
-No sound deadening material at all (PITA!!!)
-PAINTED floorboards and trunk area. This isn't a big deal to anyone I think...but me. I think it's very cool that they take the time to paint the inside of my IX RS white.
Also, the leather on SE and MR SE seats is very much identicle to RS, GSR, and MR seats; the only thing Recaro did different in the manufacturing process of the seats is substitue black thread with red thread for the stitching.
Very simple answer to that question.
For 2007, the governement started requiring side impact air bags on cars sold in the US. Rather than go through a complicated and costly process of adding side impact airbags to the last year of the CT9A, they decided to import twice as many Evolutions then what the normal import for one year would be so as to provide dealers with cars to sell all through 2006 and 2007.
I both agree and disagree with your assertion of being able to strip down a GSR into an RS. There's a few little things that truly are not thast easy to do, but they make an RS....an RS.
-Aluminum roof (complicated and costly swap)
-Lack of ABS module (time consuming removal)
-Thinner rear glass (expensive to remove and swap)
-No rear wiper (hole remains when you remove this form a GSR)
-No sound deadening material at all (PITA!!!)
-PAINTED floorboards and trunk area. This isn't a big deal to anyone I think...but me
. I think it's very cool that they take the time to paint the inside of my IX RS white.Just a little side note on weight and performance of the SE vs a GSR or SSL(which probably weighs the most besides an MR)....I raced an SE in my SSL shortly after I bought my car. I had absolutely no mods...not even a drop in filter. He had an upgraded clutch and probably flywheel too. He wouldn't say what else he had so he may have had an intake. I beat him. Not by much but I did.
My point I'm trying to make here about an SE being worth more is that I don't think it is honestly. A lip and wheels that are the same size as my factory wheels doesn't make it worth any more IMO. Me having a power sunroof is a feature that dealers and consumers look at more. Along with full leather seats and door panel inserts instead of suede. I personally think the SSL is worth more because of its options that people pay more attention to. The MR is worth more than all the EVO's because "its an MR".
The MR is worth more than all the EVO's because "its an MR".
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Also, while the SE package was ~$2,000 over a standard IX, the MR's Appearance Package was only a few hundred, which isn't too bad anyway for a better-looking lip and unique stitching and wheel color. Contrasting to that, the 40th Anniversary Edition of the 370Z asks a $1,200 premium over an otherwise identical non-40th Anniversary Z. The only difference is badging, interior leather color and wheel color. At least the MR SE people got a lip and spent a lot less.
well the MR books for about 2500 more... but it easily has a $2500 6 speed tranny the $1500 recaro's with alcantara suede and leather... the $1500 forged bbs wheels... the $250 lip... the $500 bilstein shocks... the $500 aluminum roof.... but the SE has all of that except the tranny, roof, and shocks... so what or how much would you say an SE is worth over just a reg. IX?
The MR had a sticker of $4900 ($5400 with SE appearance package), SSL $3120, and SE $1850 more than GSR. Logically it would meant the SE would be worth less than those models.
IMO it should be worth more than a GSR and put it some up where the MR/SSL are selling for. Even the SSL and MR aren't really holding value compare to the sticker price. A book doesn't buy a car, it's all about supply demand and on a small scale what buyer is willing to pay and what a seller is willing to let his car go for.
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ok i'm confused, does anyone know where i can find the difference between all model Evo IX. I don't really care about the RS model. I keep reading different things from different people. I looked at a couple of evo IX this weekend. The only difference i saw from the SE and Standard IX was that the SE had Full Leather Seats with red stiching. both models had HID lights. I don't know about an aluminum roof?
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