Favre95 since you do work for Mitsu/Subie (deal with it day in and day out), maybe you can find out how much MSRP on the MR is for us? Thanks in advance for any assitance ....

 

FstApexEvo, we should take our Evos to the beach! Know of any beaches close by?

 

Where's the proof?

 

lol im down for that ookami...lets go find a beach!!!...i KNOW my baby wouldn't get stuck lol

 

Don't forget to change the slicks first Tires are part of the problem too..

 

FYI, just called my GM, and unless he got an e-mail in the past few minutes, still no pricing on the 2005 Evolutions. He has pricing on the regular Lancers though, but no Evolutions yet.

I have the VON# for my MR now though.

 

MisterSpoot (nik), I know you are the man in the know. Thanks for trying and please do inform us when you do find out

 

It is a known fact that the body of the Evo is more rigid than the STI due to the many spot welds in the door frames and the extra sheetmetal welded in place where most flexing would occur. Not to mention the other body reinforcements in place (You need to read up on the Evo and STI structures.) The suby does not. The suby is a plain WRX body, with suspension modifications....nothing more. Now I am talking body.... not suspension, just the body. This is one reason the STI understeers more than the Evo. Due to the natural flexing of the body. It helps the Evo stay more upright, and not flex every which way when in high speed cornering.

I would suggest reading this if you did not already know this. Scroll down about 3/4 the way down if you want the body rigidity section. This explains in detail what I was talking about.

http://evo.jedinite.com/docs/Evolution_Encyclopedia/


Also, the pricing on the MR has yet to be determined. When I look it up on the Mitsu website that dealers get their info off of, it says pricing is "TBD" in every section. The Evo is the only car left in the line that needs pricing.

 

Thanks man - keep us posted.

 

If it's such a known fact then where's the actual #s for torsional rigidity comparison in Nm/degree? I just know that all latest gens WRX/STi and EVOs are pretty rigid. I find it hard to believe in a "known fact" without actual numbers to backup. And just because EVO needs some extra welding here and there doesn't mean the WRX has to too. Difference is current WRX was designed for more chassis rigidity from the ground up than building up from an econ chassis (Lancer).

You're also the first I've heard to blame STi's understeering to its chassis flexing. I believe that only has some truth to the older GC chassis Subarus, nowaday they're pretty solid and its all just about suspension tunings.

 

Thanks that was a good read ..... I know that the Subaru GDA/GDB chasis already have a very stiff body and most people in the Suby community have said that strut bars are pretty much pointless unless you have aftermarket suspension. I know suspension geometry has a lot to do with understeer as well as weight distribution but I didn't know chasis flex would. I was under the impression that chasis flex put more pressure/weight on the outer tires during a corner causing a "sort of a body roll" thus lowering overall grip on the tires as a whole, not understeer ..... I have to think about it some more. Anyways, thanks for checking and let us know when you find out the MSRP

 

are you saying the imprezza isn't subaru's economy chasis? isn't that what the wrx is built on?

 

I don't think you can call it economy. Impreza "RS" is just a lesser power WRX, it's still got mostly the same stuff and AWD. It's also in a different price range to a Lancer.

 

There still pretty cool though

 

from what i have been hearing the mr will be 35,000 msrp - are you going to be getting the sti now?