Mr Fq-400
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From: Monterey Park
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
We're going to run an MR in a 25hr endurance race. And guess what? We're going to upgrade it in many areas since it's almost certain that a few standard components are up to the task. Call it cost cutting. Call it accounting for the least common denominator. Call it whatever you want. But don't expect that just because it comes from the factory that it is built with no compromises or weaknesses. It's designed very well to a certain price point. And with this comes compromise.
And yes, we had an intercooler hose come off. And yes, we had a tranny with a twisted mainshaft. But keep in mind this car has ~500hp and has withstood One Lap of America, 3 mag tests and lots of track time. I'm not so certain a factory/Ralliart-offered car would have escaped such a long term torture test unscathed.
Just my 2c,
shiv
And yes, we had an intercooler hose come off. And yes, we had a tranny with a twisted mainshaft. But keep in mind this car has ~500hp and has withstood One Lap of America, 3 mag tests and lots of track time. I'm not so certain a factory/Ralliart-offered car would have escaped such a long term torture test unscathed.
Just my 2c,
shiv
But I am really curious why you guys did kinda poorly against the stock evo RS in the sports compact car magazine shootout? I remember you guys are 1 second faster than stock around the track, but the car cost thousands more, running on 100+ octane, obviously no warranty, but very fast in straight. Does it mean the modded car couldn't turn?
I really hate to say this and I know you would disagree, but IMHO, I trust Ralliart "alittle" more than independant because they have modded every generation of Evo, runs the
WRC team, and affiliated with . 
Yes, you are right again, Ralliart said they didn't want to build the FQ over 400 hp because over that figure, they don't think it is safe or durable for a street car. So I guess they knew that from "experience" not to go too crazy.
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Originally Posted by chantaiman51
But I am really curious why you guys did kinda poorly against the stock evo RS in the sports compact car magazine shootout? I remember you guys are 1 second faster than stock around the track, but the car cost thousands more, running on 100+ octane, obviously no warranty, but very fast in straight. Does it mean the modded car couldn't turn?
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shiv
Originally Posted by chantaiman51
1. MPG have gone UP, thank you very much
Yes, when you are running the car at below 2500 rpm the whole time right?
Yes, when you are running the car at below 2500 rpm the whole time right?
...yeah, somehow I manage to keep the revs below 2500 on the freeway doing 75
2. I don't need to pass smog, but I'm sure I could if I had to (it's been done in Cali, so I'm sure good ole IL would be no problem)
Forget it, you don't even have a chance to pass visual inspection in CA. One of my buddy is a smog technician...
Forget it, you don't even have a chance to pass visual inspection in CA. One of my buddy is a smog technician...
3. I don't care about my warranty. I knew from day 1 that would never honor warranty issues outside of very basic things.
How did you know that? Get real, you know for certain that Mitsubishi will deny 100% of the warranty claim submitted? One thing I am sure though is if you modify your car, you will loose your warranty.
would never honor warranty issues outside of very basic things.How did you know that? Get real, you know for certain that Mitsubishi will deny 100% of the warranty claim submitted? One thing I am sure though is if you modify your car, you will loose your warranty.
has already been documented many times over to DENY warrantly claims, even on BONE STOCK Evos. You also do not necessarily lose your warranty if you mod your car. I did not void the warranty on my Evo until I modded the engine (cams, cam-gears). Gauges, exhaust, clutch line ... none of them voided my warranty.
4. Why on earth would I get a fix it ticket? FWIW, I work p/t at a PD and I've read the IL vehicle code, so no worries there. And besides, you wouldn't know my car was modded unless I go WOT.
So Cal is way different than IL....
So Cal is way different than IL....
5. Yes, Vishnu (and other tuners) have warranties on their parts (obviously not the labor, since the install is usually done elsewhere)
Look, after market parts won't break themselves, but it leads to the failure of stock parts. So you put a 500hp big turbo kit in your car and it mess up the transmission. Who's is gonna pay for the transmission? Do you think the turbo will melt?...
Really? Are you sure? Dang! I guess I'm not gonna get that GT35 turbo kit afterall... You're just a fountain of information, aren't you? Aftermarket parts don't break themselves? What color is the sky in your world? OF COURSE they break ... ALL parts break sooner or later.
I can understand that you're scared to mod your car. It's ok ... really. If I had friends like yours, I'd be scared too. Fortunately the rest of us aren't. We don't go around worrying about our turbos melting.
...and when I put a 500+whp turbo kit on my car, you can rest assured that the rest of the car will be up to spec.
6. .... Get real, you think someone is buying the FQ400 for club sport event? The RS is for race, not the FQ. The FQ is too nice and complete to be used as racing vehicle.
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7. ...If it didn't perform, it lost...
... Its funny how you accept some shop doing no extensive track test while you are complaining how Ralliart test so extensively for 2200 miles aday....
8. ...Do you have any idea why the FQ400 is created. FYI, its created to celebrate the 30 years anniversary. Second, be the craziest FASTEST production sedan in the world while being durable with factory warranty. Third, exclusivity with very limited production. So it make alot of sense to test it on oval because their priority is speed and durability with limited budget. If they listen to your suggestion, they are worst than brainless, why test a 0-60mph in 3.6 seconds car with 175 mph top speed on a less than 50 mph no more than 3rd gear autox course?????? Do you test a battleship on the Colorado River?
... yeah I think I have an idea. I've read the same articles you have... Fastest? There are different ways of defining fastest, what is yours? As to the autox course .... a few things like, oh, maybe brakes, shocks, clutch, steering, chassis balance ... all those wonderful things that fall in the handling category (you might have heard of it).
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Originally Posted by chantaiman51
...IMHO, I trust Ralliart "alittle" more than independant because they have modded every generation of Evo, runs the WRC team, and affiliated with ...
Yes, you are right again, Ralliart said they didn't want to build the FQ over 400 hp because over that figure, they don't think it is safe or durable for a street car. So I guess they knew that from "experience" not to go too crazy.
WRC team, and affiliated with ... Yes, you are right again, Ralliart said they didn't want to build the FQ over 400 hp because over that figure, they don't think it is safe or durable for a street car. So I guess they knew that from "experience" not to go too crazy.
I would agree with
of UK on the 400hp figure, though. I've gotten a ride in a 650+whp Evo, and it really isn't fit for the street anymore ... of course, having said that, I'm sure all common sense will fail me soon enough and I will be driving one of those monsters around... 
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Originally Posted by IE Evo
For alot less cheese a Vishnu FQ 530 is my Evo of choice. Don't cry what about the warranty. Vishnu's FQ 530 and 580 are cheaper and besides the warranty is void as soon as you drive your Evo off the lot. Why get a car with less power and if it is raced the warranty is voided anyways. Go Vishnu you won't be disappointed. Feels stock until you hit the gas and then the beast awakens.
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This is no technical comment or anthing about the FQ400, but I have to mention this. I know most of you out there would take the Zonda or any other supercar over the FQ400 simply b/c it's sexier looking, has nicer interior, it's not a four door, Blablablablabla! Oh I forgot to mention, it's a chick magnet. But I love the fact that something has finally been introduced to the car enthusiast world to totally embarass the S#!T out of anyone who drives a sexier looking car with a sexy,hot chick in the passenger seat of their exotic supercar. Be prepaired for the ultimate embarassment of your life at the start line. I'm very amazed.
Originally Posted by ksource
This is no technical comment or anthing about the FQ400, but I have to mention this. I know most of you out there would take the Zonda or any other supercar over the FQ400 simply b/c it's sexier looking, has nicer interior, it's not a four door, Blablablablabla! Oh I forgot to mention, it's a chick magnet. But I love the fact that something has finally been introduced to the car enthusiast world to totally embarass the S#!T out of anyone who drives a sexier looking car with a sexy,hot chick in the passenger seat of their exotic supercar. Be prepaired for the ultimate embarassment of your life at the start line. I'm very amazed.
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From: Savannah GA
Originally Posted by johnnysixer
Well duh, who in their right mind wouldnt take the Pagani over the FQ? Hell, if you can afford a Pagani, you can probably afford to buy the FQ at the same time!
Originally Posted by ksource
Man screw you Flamer Champion of the World. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there in the world that find themselves choosing between any supercar over 100K, and a 80K,highly modded 4 banger, simply b/c they don't want both cars. It's all personal preference, and I'm sure there are people out there that would rather buy the FQ over the Pagani simply for performance reasons and spending less money. And plenty of people out there that would prefer the Pagani over the FQ b/c of it's exotic looks. Just adding my thoughts on the FQ400, ya don't have to be a smartass.
I think he was joking 
