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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Yeah you are, but you're an "enthusiast", not an enthusiast. Get me?
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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worse yet...

The part of the article that worried me more was the comment that the goal is to make the EVO X softer riding and quieter. These two would seem to equal poorer handling and more weight. The DSG and broader torque band mentioned will help performance in most cases but the DSG needs to include a launch algorithm that optimizes clutch slipping like the SMG launch control implemented by BMW.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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DSG has such an algorithm, it is disabled in the US because we like to sue and demand warranty coverage for abuse.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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you guys are all dreaming there not going to put paddle shifting on the 10, mitsubishi is to poor to put a smg style system on the evo.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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How poor Mitsubishi is has nothing to do with it. If they include a computer shifted manual its cost will be included in the price so the customer will pay for it.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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OH, snap, you mean Mitsubishi sells cars to make money? I think the crux is that the VAG has many cars like the R32, TT, Jetta, Golf, A3 which they can use to amortize the cost of developing DSG technology. Mitsubishi sells fewer then 10,000 Evolutions total a year. Now, a two pedal gearbox may increase demand, but either they're going to have to charge A LOT for it, or bank on future demand amortizing the cost of the gearbox. Either way, if they develop it, they're not going to limit it to the Evo. It wouldn't make any business sense.

Car companies operate like small businesses... they make large investments up front and bank on their projections to have them make money long term. But they can't think in terms of recouping the cost of a new model over a single year, but rather over the entire run of the vehicle line. A mistake and it's all a writeoff, and Mitsubishi isn't in the position to take risks on a low volume vehicle. On the other hand, Mitsubishi needs to continue to prove that they have the talent and technology to keep from falling behind the Koreans. A DSG type gearbox might be one way they can prove that they still have that technological edge.

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