How does it skip gears? I know that you can only sequentially go up and down the gears. Yeah, you can go from 6th to 4th by pulling on the paddle twice. From 6th to 4th you will still need to go through 5th, right? That's not exactly skipping gears does it? I find it impossible to skip gears, unless it's with an standard H pattern box.

 

You are correct, there are many sleeves and products out there to make any open deck Honda B16A or B18C engine plenty stout and able to handle massive amounts of power and boost. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Honda uses siamesed cylinders. The siamesed cylinders mean that all 4 cylinders will be tied together. I don't see how they are going to offer upraded sleeves because there will be no seperate sleeves - all the cylinder sleeves will be connected to one another, unable to be seperated. I don't see very much flexability with this engine , it seems that the engine block design does not lend itself to modification like a Honda block does. I guess this is what happens when an engine is designed by automakers such as Hyundai and Dodge. All 3 automakers will be using the same short block. The only difference will be in the heads, intake, and exhaust systems between manufactures. For instance - Mitsu will be using their MIVEC system for cam phasing control on both intake and exhaust cams. That sounds pretty high tech but guess what, Dodge will be using a highly sophisticated advance system from Mercedes to actuate both cams. I don't know what Hyundai will be using. All in all the EVO will have the same short block as the base Lancer or any other Dodge/Hyundai using a 2 liter. The only difference will be the heads, exhaust, and intake/turbo components.

 

they did creat it but wwhy **** with a great formula that people will obiviously fall in love with. It like John Madden taking his football games and going okay well now with the new one you'll be the fan you get extra points for your team if you starts fights and hook up with random chicks/dudes at the games!!!

Don't mess with it I am already to just leave and go get an STI rather than an X.


I hope to god they don't keep it looking like that if so, I'm gone.

 

anyone know the basic differences between the 4g63 and the new engine?

 

4G63

1). cast iron block, fully closed deck
2). alluminum head, MIVEC on intake cam only
3). forged alluminum pistons, forged steel crank and rods
4). 100% designed and built by Mitsubishi in Japan
5). 16G turbo, 10.5 hotside, titanium turbine wheel I believe

4B11T

1). Short block designed by Hyundai, Dodge, and Mitsubishi. The EVO will share the same short block (block, crank, rods, piston) as the base Lancer or any other Hyundai/Dodge 4 cylinder vehicle. This new block can be configured in either a 1.8, 2.0, or 2.4 liter variation.
2). The World engine is a siamesed cylinder, open deck alluminum block and uses a forged crank, rods, and forged alluminum pistons with a graphite coating on the skirts to reduce friction.
3). Not much is known at the present moment about the turbo that will be used on the new engine or what kind of boost it will run.

Here is a web site with alot of good info on the World engine and some really good pictures of the block with it's siamesed cylinders

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html

......just keep in mind that the only thing on that page that applies to Mitsubishi is the cylinder block info. All of the head and intake info is for Dodge. It's worth a look, Dodge has some pretty hi-tech stuff going on.

 

That's one of the reasons for the two clutches, it does not have to go through the gears in order. If you were to get hard on the brakes while in 6th gear a car with DSG could go into 3rd without ever having to see 4th and 5th. I believe the same goes with the upshift but I can't remember if it would do it in manual mode. There are differnet modes and IIC when I drove it you could wind out a gear and then shift while maintaining speed and it would go up two gears in order to optimize RPMs at you cruising speed.

 

stock honda b-series open deck with siamesed cylinders. the cylinders are case aluminum with steel sleeve.


Golden Eagle sleeved b-series honda blocks. all cyliders are shaved off and new iron sleeves are pressed in. these sleeved blocks can handle 1000+ whp.

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for a little over $1000, you can have a bomb proof block that's lighter and better heat transfer for cooling than an iron block. it would probably cost more to sleeve a b411t block initially but as more vendor provide the service, the price will drop (hopefully).

 

No argument there, you certainly can sleeve the block. But it involves a "tad" more work than installing a mbc, tuning and an exhaust to go 11s... Who is going to be willing to take their brand new Evo and tear out the block?

 

I still say the SRT-4 will have the best and most upgradable version of this world engine. Starting out at 2.4L they already have a good head start.

One good thing will be that swapping an Evo engine into a base lancer (or Hundai for that matter) will be made more doable? Now we are going to have hotrod elantra's running around everywhere!

 

S-AYC control unit, Audi derived transmission and high end stereo will be the main weight offenders I bet. According to the British forums, the Super-AYC specs a 9k mile fluid change adding to the service regimen. Hopefully Mitsu will include some free service with the higher price of the new car. X will have active braking also. Most forget the infamous FQ400 vs Lambo BBC vid showcased a car w/ SYAC unlike the current US cars.

 

Honda-guy, thanks for clearing that up. I come from small block Chevy engines and the 400 small block has siamesed cylinders and it's a total different situation than the Honda. I guess V8 cast iron block siamesed cylinders are a little different than alluminum 4 cylinder block siamesed cylinders. It's pretty cool to see how different engines are set up. I did'nt know an engine could have removable cylinders while being in a siamesed configuration. Pretty interesting, I learn new stuff all the time about these import 4 cylinders. I used to build V8's for 14-15 years before swiching over to imports.

 

Man, stock for stock...the car is better than the Evo 8/9. However, it's all about how the car will handle mods.

Edmunds estimates 320hp and similar torque.

The part I'm most excited about is the S-AWC system. I'm pretty sure I'll buy, but I want to wait for the EvoM reviews first.