Lets clear up some things about the Evo X
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Lets clear up some things about the Evo X
1.) The chassis weighs 200lbs. more, not the car. The engine is 60lbs. lighter (at least in non FI form) and there are some lighter body panels and they're claiming lighter suspension pieces as well. However, there will be additional airbags and creature comforts to weigh it down. In short, we don't know how much heavier the new car will be so stop assuming it's 200lbs. heavier.
2.) Just because all the talk is about the new DSG style tranny does not mean there will not be a manual. It would be downright stupid for Mitsubishi not to offer it in manual as well. They're just showcasing their new technologies and features with the show car right now.
3.) It is unknown at this point if the manual option will be a 5MT or a 6MT, various automotive publications have reported one or the other.
4.) A DSG style tranny (what is reported to be on the Evo X) is quite different from a SMG or sequential gearbox. Both of those are very different from a tiptronic and a plethora of other names used for a traditional automatic tranny with paddle shifters. Do a search if you don't understand the differences.
5.) The new engine will have an aluminum block. That does NOT mean it won't be very strong and won't be able to handle extra horsepower from mods.
6.) No official pricing has been released, so stop assuming prices.
7.) The prototype has 20" wheels, the production model will have 18" wheels.
Feel free to add some things I may have missed...
2.) Just because all the talk is about the new DSG style tranny does not mean there will not be a manual. It would be downright stupid for Mitsubishi not to offer it in manual as well. They're just showcasing their new technologies and features with the show car right now.
3.) It is unknown at this point if the manual option will be a 5MT or a 6MT, various automotive publications have reported one or the other.
4.) A DSG style tranny (what is reported to be on the Evo X) is quite different from a SMG or sequential gearbox. Both of those are very different from a tiptronic and a plethora of other names used for a traditional automatic tranny with paddle shifters. Do a search if you don't understand the differences.
5.) The new engine will have an aluminum block. That does NOT mean it won't be very strong and won't be able to handle extra horsepower from mods.
6.) No official pricing has been released, so stop assuming prices.
7.) The prototype has 20" wheels, the production model will have 18" wheels.
Feel free to add some things I may have missed...
Last edited by Ike; Jan 10, 2007 at 11:24 AM.
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i just hope the DSG type tranny is not going to be a CVT with pre-program shift points. the regular lancer is going to have a CVT option. those cvt tranny can't handle too much power.
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the actual release date is in spring 08, according to aforementioned Car and Driver Magazine.
too bad, cuz the LancerProject video promises the Evo for late 07...
oh well... gives me more time to save up!!!
too bad, cuz the LancerProject video promises the Evo for late 07...
oh well... gives me more time to save up!!!
In the actual press release from the Detroit show where the Prototype X is being shown for the first time in the US...It states that Evo X will come with an optional 5speed MT which is necessary to hold the torque from the new engine. It will be available in an automated manual as well, A TRUE clutchless manual not a torque converter it will be just like the SMG and transmissions on the high end sports cars.
There is NO mention of horsepower, only that it will yeild the highest power rating of any evo before. The final numbers are not released beacuse htey are not done with final tuning.
In fact here is the press release.
Coming Soon: Evolution Revolution
The Lancer Evolution has long lived up to its namesake by greatly improving with each successive generation. (Lancer Evolution VIII was the first to be offered in the U.S. market.) As Prototype X demonstrates, the Lancer Evolution will soon make perhaps the largest leap in overall capability seen between two generations of this model. The next Evolution will offer major gains in handling dynamics and technology while maintaining the kind of thrilling turbo engine performance that has made the model a street legend around the world.
Although clearly based on the new Lancer and sharing its distinctive shark-nose grille opening, Prototype X features a unique front end, rear fenders and decklid. Making a maximum-performance statement, Prototype X looks the part of the street-wise sports machine with its boxed fenders, aggressively sloping hood with integral air scoop, 20-inch alloy wheels with massive brakes and the high-tech LED turn signals in the sideview mirrors.
Inside, the deeply contoured bucket seats are upholstered in high-grip Alcantara. An electronic lap counter hints at the car’s weekend club racer capability, while the red LED light band that spans the doors and the dash surface might suggest a customizing idea to future customers. The user technology in Prototype X previews what will be available for the next Lancer Evolution. While not all design features and content seen on Prototype X will make it to the production vehicle, the overall design will carry through.
Next-Gen Evolution Power
The engine powering Prototype X – and the next Lancer Evolution – is a turbocharged version of the new aluminum 4B11 2.0-liter DOHC MIVEC engine used in the 2008 Lancer. It will yield the highest power rating ever in an Evolution model. (Since development continues, final engine output figures will be revealed at a later date.) Significantly, the newest Lancer Evolution will have less differentiation from market to market than the previous generations.
The new model’s aluminum engine block is a significant 20 kg (53.4 lbs.) lighter than the iron-block 4G63 engine used in all previous Evolution models, which aids weight distribution. In addition, its orientation (exhaust located on bulkhead side) allows for improved placement that helps to lower the center of gravity. Although the new Evolution engine block is lighter, it was designed from the outset for high-performance turbocharged applications. High inherent strength has been achieved partly through over-engineering of the open deck block, and the use of large water jackets and metal areas around each siamesed cylinder bore. The reciprocating assembly of the turbocharged 4B11 is capable of withstanding high levels of boost.
Automated Manual Transmission
Prototype X is equipped with the automated manual transmission with magnesium steering wheel paddle shifters that will be available on the next Lancer Evolution. This new transmission will offer lightning fast, paddle-shift actuated shifting when desired, along with offering a fully automatic mode. This unit is not a conventional torque-converter automatic transmission, but rather a true auto-capable manual similar to that used on some of the world’s most notable performance models. For stick shift purists, the next Lancer Evolution will still offer a conventional 5-speed manual transmission. With the 4B11 turbo engine’s stronger torque performance, a 5-speed will provide optimal acceleration response.
Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC)
The next Lancer Evolution, while still providing the levels of engine performance that appeal to this model’s loyal core customers, will expand dynamic capability with the new Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC) system. Combining intelligent full-time four-wheel drive with stability control, S-AWC is a further development of the advanced full-time 4WD technology first introduced on the new-generation Outlander SUV for 2007.
In Prototype X this next-generation system combines an Active Center Differential (ACD) with an Active Yaw Control (AYC) rear differential and Active Skid Control (ASC). The AYC rear differential has never been offered on a Lancer Evolution sold in the U.S. market. The combination of all these technologies will help the Lancer Evolution make optimal use of its considerable torque and also ensure the highest level of dynamic capability and stability ever in this model. At the same time, the new technology will further enhance the exhilarating driving performance character that customers have come to expect from this model.
The next Lancer Evolution once again features its own suspension system, replacing steel stampings of the standard Lancer with race-proven forged aluminum components. Due to the high rigidity of the new global C-platform, the Evolution’s suspension can be tuned to provide a more compliant and stable ride than before without compromising handling performance – a trait that is expected from a true world-class performance sedan.
With exciting performance assured, Mitsubishi will be able to equip the upcoming Lancer Evolution to be a markedly better car for everyday driving. User technologies introduced on the new Outlander and Lancer models will also be offered in the next Lancer Evolution, including a premium Rockford-Fosgate® 650-watt (max.) audio system, HDD navigation system with music server, Bluetooth®, steering wheel audio controls, and an automatic climate control system.
There is NO mention of horsepower, only that it will yeild the highest power rating of any evo before. The final numbers are not released beacuse htey are not done with final tuning.
In fact here is the press release.
Coming Soon: Evolution Revolution
The Lancer Evolution has long lived up to its namesake by greatly improving with each successive generation. (Lancer Evolution VIII was the first to be offered in the U.S. market.) As Prototype X demonstrates, the Lancer Evolution will soon make perhaps the largest leap in overall capability seen between two generations of this model. The next Evolution will offer major gains in handling dynamics and technology while maintaining the kind of thrilling turbo engine performance that has made the model a street legend around the world.
Although clearly based on the new Lancer and sharing its distinctive shark-nose grille opening, Prototype X features a unique front end, rear fenders and decklid. Making a maximum-performance statement, Prototype X looks the part of the street-wise sports machine with its boxed fenders, aggressively sloping hood with integral air scoop, 20-inch alloy wheels with massive brakes and the high-tech LED turn signals in the sideview mirrors.
Inside, the deeply contoured bucket seats are upholstered in high-grip Alcantara. An electronic lap counter hints at the car’s weekend club racer capability, while the red LED light band that spans the doors and the dash surface might suggest a customizing idea to future customers. The user technology in Prototype X previews what will be available for the next Lancer Evolution. While not all design features and content seen on Prototype X will make it to the production vehicle, the overall design will carry through.
Next-Gen Evolution Power
The engine powering Prototype X – and the next Lancer Evolution – is a turbocharged version of the new aluminum 4B11 2.0-liter DOHC MIVEC engine used in the 2008 Lancer. It will yield the highest power rating ever in an Evolution model. (Since development continues, final engine output figures will be revealed at a later date.) Significantly, the newest Lancer Evolution will have less differentiation from market to market than the previous generations.
The new model’s aluminum engine block is a significant 20 kg (53.4 lbs.) lighter than the iron-block 4G63 engine used in all previous Evolution models, which aids weight distribution. In addition, its orientation (exhaust located on bulkhead side) allows for improved placement that helps to lower the center of gravity. Although the new Evolution engine block is lighter, it was designed from the outset for high-performance turbocharged applications. High inherent strength has been achieved partly through over-engineering of the open deck block, and the use of large water jackets and metal areas around each siamesed cylinder bore. The reciprocating assembly of the turbocharged 4B11 is capable of withstanding high levels of boost.
Automated Manual Transmission
Prototype X is equipped with the automated manual transmission with magnesium steering wheel paddle shifters that will be available on the next Lancer Evolution. This new transmission will offer lightning fast, paddle-shift actuated shifting when desired, along with offering a fully automatic mode. This unit is not a conventional torque-converter automatic transmission, but rather a true auto-capable manual similar to that used on some of the world’s most notable performance models. For stick shift purists, the next Lancer Evolution will still offer a conventional 5-speed manual transmission. With the 4B11 turbo engine’s stronger torque performance, a 5-speed will provide optimal acceleration response.
Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC)
The next Lancer Evolution, while still providing the levels of engine performance that appeal to this model’s loyal core customers, will expand dynamic capability with the new Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC) system. Combining intelligent full-time four-wheel drive with stability control, S-AWC is a further development of the advanced full-time 4WD technology first introduced on the new-generation Outlander SUV for 2007.
In Prototype X this next-generation system combines an Active Center Differential (ACD) with an Active Yaw Control (AYC) rear differential and Active Skid Control (ASC). The AYC rear differential has never been offered on a Lancer Evolution sold in the U.S. market. The combination of all these technologies will help the Lancer Evolution make optimal use of its considerable torque and also ensure the highest level of dynamic capability and stability ever in this model. At the same time, the new technology will further enhance the exhilarating driving performance character that customers have come to expect from this model.
The next Lancer Evolution once again features its own suspension system, replacing steel stampings of the standard Lancer with race-proven forged aluminum components. Due to the high rigidity of the new global C-platform, the Evolution’s suspension can be tuned to provide a more compliant and stable ride than before without compromising handling performance – a trait that is expected from a true world-class performance sedan.
With exciting performance assured, Mitsubishi will be able to equip the upcoming Lancer Evolution to be a markedly better car for everyday driving. User technologies introduced on the new Outlander and Lancer models will also be offered in the next Lancer Evolution, including a premium Rockford-Fosgate® 650-watt (max.) audio system, HDD navigation system with music server, Bluetooth®, steering wheel audio controls, and an automatic climate control system.
I trust Mitsubishi to do the right thing
As long as Mitsubishi makes an RS version of the EVO X (with AYC), I will be happy.
I trust Mitsubishi to do the right thing for us die-hard driving enthusiasts! After all they created this monster.
I trust Mitsubishi to do the right thing for us die-hard driving enthusiasts! After all they created this monster.