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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Cool... thanks for the link. I think I'll a get a set for my current car.
The OEM blades died afer 20K miles.
Bosch ones are awesome. Stay away from Trico, even though they're flatter than the Bosch.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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I have the PIAA silicone and even though they are pricey they work like a champ. It's like having rain-X on the windows.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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The car is NOT going to be dual clutch. It's going to a computer controlled single clutch transmission.
wow... that sucks... i was just listing the big concerns for the TRUE evo enthusiast before, but i didn't know if a should believe you. I really wanted a DSG/F1 type system...I had to watch that lancerproject video over again, but it looks like the DSG claims are a little overstated! Looks like it will be closer to CVT ...
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Taumax...what is the source of that information? Can you back up that statement or are you just quoting something you heard from someone who knows the brother of someone who's a janitor at ?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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+1 otter, i like the michelin blades too
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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I talked to the Mitsubishi rep at the car show.

Also, see this post for more confirmation:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...93#post3886993

Originally Posted by Cirrusly Evolvd
Taumax...what is the source of that information? Can you back up that statement or are you just quoting something you heard from someone who knows the brother of someone who's a janitor at ?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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DSG is banned in F1.

Besides, "seamless" single clutch transmissions are better.

Check out my post on this thread:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...93#post3886993

Originally Posted by SkaTG2k3
wow... that sucks... i was just listing the big concerns for the TRUE evo enthusiast before, but i didn't know if a should believe you. I really wanted a DSG/F1 type system...I had to watch that lancerproject video over again, but it looks like the DSG claims are a little overstated! Looks like it will be closer to CVT ...
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by taumax
DSG is banned in F1.

Besides, "seamless" single clutch transmissions are better.

Check out my post on this thread:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...93#post3886993
Nobody cares about F1. If you said DSG is banned in the WRC, someone (read: not me) would care.

I've owned a DSG car and it was my favorite part of the whole car. My opinion is that other than high-powered luxo-barges (read: Buick to Mercedes), DSG is an obvious replacement for an automatic.

Single-clutch automated manuals have been panned by reviewers in everything from a Smart to an Aston Martin to a Ferrari.

"The thing is it's a gearbox. OK, it has one job to do, one job. Pull the lever: 'Am I a pencil? Am I a cauliflower? Am I a nuclear power sta-I'm a gearbox! Oh, heavens I'll swap some cogs around!" -Jeremy Clarkson describing the Smart transmission. (see a similar quote in the last 30 sec of the linked video.)
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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DSG IS an obvious replacement for an automatic. Of course there is no automatic to replace on an Evo. <--- me being Captain Obvious

Before the OCD people correct me, I should quickly clarify that there is no automatic to replace on an Evo in the US.

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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I wouldn't say that nobody cares about F1.
But if seamless gearboxes can be used on engines with higher torque and horsepower ratings, I don't see why they couldn't be used in WRC. In fact, I bet that WRC cars will eventually use these types of gearboxes.

AFAIK, I don't think any WRC cars use DSG. If you know of any, please post a link.

Yes, DSG is an obvious replacement for automatics, but seamless gearboxes are more efficient, cost less, and offer better performance. See my posting for Zeroshift.

The single clutch automated manuals are not what I'm referring to. They still use standard synchros and the clutch has to be disengaged during a shift.

The seamless AMT I'm talking about allow you to shift with about disengaging the clutch with a minimal loss in vehicle acceleration. Even less loss in acceleration that a DSG transmission. This is the gearbox that F1 cars are switching to.

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Nobody cares about F1. If you said DSG is banned in the WRC, someone (read: not me) would care.

I've owned a DSG car and it was my favorite part of the whole car. My opinion is that other than high-powered luxo-barges (read: Buick to Mercedes), DSG is an obvious replacement for an automatic.

Single-clutch automated manuals have been panned by reviewers in everything from a Smart to an Aston Martin to a Ferrari.

"The thing is it's a gearbox. OK, it has one job to do, one job. Pull the lever: 'Am I a pencil? Am I a cauliflower? Am I a nuclear power sta-I'm a gearbox! Oh, heavens I'll swap some cogs around!" -Jeremy Clarkson describing the Smart transmission. (see a similar quote in the last 30 sec of the linked video.)

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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i dont see why people making all these speculations of the aluminum block not being able to hold additional boost, when Mitsubishi clearly stated that it will be capable of handling large amounts of boost. i mean, look at the SR20, its an aluminum block isnt it? i believe it is also a bulletproof engine. hence, this new 4B11T could have some potential or even more than the 4G63. then i again, i could be wrong, but nonetheless, we all need to stop all this speculation and wait till we see the real deal.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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also dont forget, it took quite awhile to perfect the 4G63. i think you guys should have faith in this new motor, its only a matter of time when we truly see the capabilities of the 4B11T.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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3. Lack of direct injection: I spoke with the Mitsubishi rep, and he said that it's most likely NOT going to be direct injected!!!
i wonder if this mitsu rep is one to believe in ..
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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It's funny how everyone wants the best parts available in their Evo...but when they see the price involved all of sudden it's a bad thing to have all those parts.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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i think its overall gay!!! it looks like a poser mazda...why change?
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